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Paul Abbaszadeh · November 19th, 2014, 09:44 PM

I was hoping to get some input from you all. I have the opportunity to purchase a pre-owned FS100 (body only) for $1,450 which I think is a great price. The problem is I already own an NEX-EA50 and I can't for the life of me decide if I really need the FS100 or if it's just an impulse because I've wanted that camera since it was originally introduced...I'm attracted to the FS100 for 3 main reasons, greatly improved sensor readout time which has a much reduced rolling shutter vs the EA50, the image is sharper (doesn't have that slight "softness" the EA50 has), and the improved lowlight abilities. Are those three things justification enough to drop almost $1,500? Should I still keep the EA50 as a B cam? HELP!!!

Aaron Jones Sr. · November 19th, 2014, 09:59 PM

I guess in my limited experience if your budget allows I would get the FS100 provided it is good shape and you can always resale it for more later that is a good investment at that price. Also I would get it as a main cam on tripod and use the EA50 more mobile as a B cam. I guess the main question would be what to do you shoot? Will it benefit you to have 2 cams? What are you looking to accomplish? i would not replace the EA with the FS100 simply because of the mobility of the EA.

Chris Harding · November 19th, 2014, 10:44 PM

Hi Paul

Better sensor yes!! Better ergonomics NO!! If you always have your A-Cam on a tripod then it's a good buy but it's a dog to hand hold!! You will end up buying a rig of some sort I'm sure and that will add to the cost of the camera.

Soft image???? Not for me ..I tossed out the stock lenses on both cameras and use Tamron 17-50 on my A-Cam and a Sigma 18-35 F1.8 on my B-Cam ....they are totally different cameras without the stock lens and razor sharp. With faster lenses I also wouldn't need the extra stop or two that the FS100 offers as my lenses give it to me.

Sounds like you have the same problem as me ... when I see something I like I want it!! Do you REALLY need a 2nd camera ..if not then are you quite happy to sell your EA-50 and keep the FS100 ????

Tough decision !!

Chris

Noa Put · November 20th, 2014, 01:48 AM

I think it's not a soft image you see but the result of moire and aliasing because the nex-ea50 sensor is not optimised for video but the fs100 is. Even with sharp primes my ea50 had a less detailed image then my sony cx730 and my cx730 is less detailed image then my gh3/4 and ax100.

I think it depends what you plan to use that "box" for, like Chris said you will need some form of rig if you are not going to use it on a tripod.

Paul Wood · November 20th, 2014, 02:43 AM

I can only speak for the FS100, as I have no experience with the EA50, but although I have a rig for the camera, it is often a pleasure to use it handheld almost as it comes out the box (although I don't use the handgrip much).
I have a ShotGrip top handle, and that adds a lot of stability to holding the camera steady, as it can be placed at 90º to the body.
Most of my work is tripod based, but, as has been stated, if you can see a need for it, it is still an excellent camera, and gives good results, once you get used to its little quirks.

I would think, for that price, you almost can't go wrong!

Paul Abbaszadeh · February 21st, 2015, 08:17 PM

I ended up getting the FS100...I love it! I haven't used the EA50 since, I should probably sell it

Chris Harding · February 21st, 2015, 08:32 PM

I'm tempted Paul !! A mate of mine has an FS100 ... Even without a shoulder pad it seems to be fine but what worries me when you dump a heavy 2lb plus lens on the front? I guess rails with a shoulder pad would work OK

I really don't like where Sony has put the EVF ...On top of the housing?? It's perfect for a tripod mounted camera IF you are tall enough to see over the top of the camera ..low level shots would be fine but what happens on a high tripod ..say the camera is at 6' ..how on earth do you look into the viewfinder unless you have a ladder ?? The EA-50 at least allows you to swivel the EVF tube down so you can look into it?

Love the sensor though!!!

Chris

Peter Rush · February 22nd, 2015, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Abbaszadeh

the image is sharper (doesn't have that slight "softness" the EA50 has), and the improved lowlight abilities. Are those three things justification enough to drop almost $1,500? Should I still keep the EA50 as a B cam? HELP!!!

Paul are you using the stock lens? Like Chris I ditched that for good Canon glass and the image is noticably sharper and more detailed for me :)

Noa Put · February 22nd, 2015, 11:52 AM

The ea50 doesn't resolve much fine detail, sharp primes make a difference but especially on wide shots the difference to all my camera's was obvious.

Aaron Jones Sr. · February 23rd, 2015, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Abbaszadeh

I ended up getting the FS100...I love it! I haven't used the EA50 since, I should probably sell it

Thanks for the update Paul. I will be getting a FS100 shortly, but I will keep my EA as well. Can yo tell me what it is you like about the FS100 that has you replacing the EA? Just curious as to what you have uncovered in your transition...

November 19th, 2014, 09:44 PM	#1
Paul Abbaszadeh Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 35	Advice I was hoping to get some input from you all. I have the opportunity to purchase a pre-owned FS100 (body only) for $1,450 which I think is a great price. The problem is I already own an NEX-EA50 and I can't for the life of me decide if I really need the FS100 or if it's just an impulse because I've wanted that camera since it was originally introduced...I'm attracted to the FS100 for 3 main reasons, greatly improved sensor readout time which has a much reduced rolling shutter vs the EA50, the image is sharper (doesn't have that slight "softness" the EA50 has), and the improved lowlight abilities. Are those three things justification enough to drop almost $1,500? Should I still keep the EA50 as a B cam? HELP!!!

November 19th, 2014, 09:59 PM	#2
Aaron Jones Sr. Major Player Join Date: May 2013 Location: Flint, Michigan, USA Posts: 394	Re: Advice I guess in my limited experience if your budget allows I would get the FS100 provided it is good shape and you can always resale it for more later that is a good investment at that price. Also I would get it as a main cam on tripod and use the EA50 more mobile as a B cam. I guess the main question would be what to do you shoot? Will it benefit you to have 2 cams? What are you looking to accomplish? i would not replace the EA with the FS100 simply because of the mobility of the EA. Last edited by Aaron Jones Sr.; November 20th, 2014 at 12:11 AM.

November 19th, 2014, 10:44 PM	#3
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	Re: Advice Hi Paul Better sensor yes!! Better ergonomics NO!! If you always have your A-Cam on a tripod then it's a good buy but it's a dog to hand hold!! You will end up buying a rig of some sort I'm sure and that will add to the cost of the camera. Soft image???? Not for me ..I tossed out the stock lenses on both cameras and use Tamron 17-50 on my A-Cam and a Sigma 18-35 F1.8 on my B-Cam ....they are totally different cameras without the stock lens and razor sharp. With faster lenses I also wouldn't need the extra stop or two that the FS100 offers as my lenses give it to me. Sounds like you have the same problem as me ... when I see something I like I want it!! Do you REALLY need a 2nd camera ..if not then are you quite happy to sell your EA-50 and keep the FS100 ???? Tough decision !! Chris

November 20th, 2014, 01:48 AM	#4
Noa Put Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Posts: 9,510	Re: Advice I think it's not a soft image you see but the result of moire and aliasing because the nex-ea50 sensor is not optimised for video but the fs100 is. Even with sharp primes my ea50 had a less detailed image then my sony cx730 and my cx730 is less detailed image then my gh3/4 and ax100. I think it depends what you plan to use that "box" for, like Chris said you will need some form of rig if you are not going to use it on a tripod.

November 20th, 2014, 02:43 AM	#5
Paul Wood Major Player Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 485	Re: Advice I can only speak for the FS100, as I have no experience with the EA50, but although I have a rig for the camera, it is often a pleasure to use it handheld almost as it comes out the box (although I don't use the handgrip much). I have a ShotGrip top handle, and that adds a lot of stability to holding the camera steady, as it can be placed at 90º to the body. Most of my work is tripod based, but, as has been stated, if you can see a need for it, it is still an excellent camera, and gives good results, once you get used to its little quirks. I would think, for that price, you almost can't go wrong!

February 21st, 2015, 08:17 PM	#6
Paul Abbaszadeh Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 35	Re: Advice I ended up getting the FS100...I love it! I haven't used the EA50 since, I should probably sell it

February 21st, 2015, 08:32 PM	#7
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	Re: Advice I'm tempted Paul !! A mate of mine has an FS100 ... Even without a shoulder pad it seems to be fine but what worries me when you dump a heavy 2lb plus lens on the front? I guess rails with a shoulder pad would work OK I really don't like where Sony has put the EVF ...On top of the housing?? It's perfect for a tripod mounted camera IF you are tall enough to see over the top of the camera ..low level shots would be fine but what happens on a high tripod ..say the camera is at 6' ..how on earth do you look into the viewfinder unless you have a ladder ?? The EA-50 at least allows you to swivel the EVF tube down so you can look into it? Love the sensor though!!! Chris

February 22nd, 2015, 11:52 AM	#9
Noa Put Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Posts: 9,510	Re: Advice The ea50 doesn't resolve much fine detail, sharp primes make a difference but especially on wide shots the difference to all my camera's was obvious.