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Randy Johnson · October 26th, 2014, 11:24 AM

Well I got my GY-HM600 I havent taken it on a job yet BUT I might sell my Sony and get another. Not knockin the Sony BUT for me its a great solution! great in low light 23X optical zoom and 35-50 mps record speed. not perfect but really nice.

Tom Van den Berghe · October 26th, 2014, 12:12 PM

And I just received this weekend my new sony HXR-NX3 that has 20x optical zoom and 40x clear image zoom.
I used the clear image zoom yesterday on a stage event and it looks really good.

I used the nex-ea50 for the wide shots.

I don't like color correct 2 brands of camcorders.

Chris Harding · October 26th, 2014, 07:37 PM

Good idea Randy

You are definitely a camcorder guy so cameras with good autofocus and exposure suit you perfectly. You don't need the hassles with manual lenses or big sensors either. I would suspect that being comfortable with the 600 is because it's is close to the HMC150 so getting two sounds like a sensible plan ands you should get a good price on the EA-50 to help fund your second JVC camera

Chris

Randy Johnson · October 26th, 2014, 09:09 PM

yeah it may be a wash, The JVC is $3000 and I have the Sony with a 17-200 stock lens, a 17-50 , a HVR 128 and a metabones speed booster plus a couple other adapters.. I should be able to get $3000 for all that ya think?

Steven Digges · October 27th, 2014, 11:21 AM

Randy,

I will be very surprised if you come close to $3000.00 for all that stuff. But hey, I am not a wheeler and dealer. I end up hanging on to my stuff for TOO long.

Don Bloom, a member here I think you know, is sell his JVC gear. I'm not sure what he has but it might be worth a PM for you. He is a great guy.

Steve

Randy Johnson · October 27th, 2014, 01:42 PM

Steve,
I dont know if I understood you post, are you saying that stuff would or would not be worth $3000? From what I see the camera alone with stock lense is going for $2000 to $2500 on Ebay.

Steven Digges · October 27th, 2014, 02:52 PM

Hey Randy,

Sony is offering a $800.00 rebate on the EA50, supposedly through December 31. Last year they extended it until July.

So the net cost of a brand new EA50 at B&H is $2,400.00

Steve

Chris Harding · October 27th, 2014, 06:29 PM

When I sell old stuff I try to also be realistic! In my books you are dreaming if you think you will get more than about 50% of the retail price.

You have had good use from the camera and made money from it so if it was me I would be expecting around 50% of what you paid for the camera and adapter etc etc.

I think that would be far more realistic ... otherwise you end up being very disappointed!!

From my side I would say yes, $3000 is being very optimistic .... Maybe closer to $2000?

Chris

Randy Johnson · October 27th, 2014, 07:49 PM

I always use the $.50 on the dollar as a guide. I was figuring maybe 1,000 to 1,500 for the camera and lens. $250 for the tamron 17-50 $300 for the fmu 128 250 for the metabones speed booster maybe 100 for the other adapters and such. getting close to the $2500- $3000 mark. I think I will just keep it though, its worth more to me in service as a spare then what I would get if I sold it.

Chris Harding · October 27th, 2014, 09:02 PM

Hi Randy

I have a simple policy.. if I don't use something for 6 months then it goes on eBay and I buy something that I will use. If you need something and don't want to dip into your bank account, probably put the FMU and the Metabones on eBay as they won't add an awful lot to the camera value ... just keep the cam as a standard unit to use. I would also keep the 17-50 if you still are using your Nikons ..Gosh those are sharp lenses and great for stills ... I actually want a second one so I'll either look for a Sigma or Tamron this week as it's not only a great lens for stills it's also great for video!

If you do get rid of the Sony, then just sell it with the 18-200 and you will get a fair price for it!!

Just for interest what will you use for weddings now? The HM600 and what second camera??

Chris

Randy Johnson · October 27th, 2014, 09:28 PM

I have 2 kits I would use the GY-HM600 for my main camera and my Panasonic AG-HMC 150s for the 2nd camera. So at the end of the day I will have 2 JVCs and 2 panasonics

Francisco Estrada · November 5th, 2014, 01:32 AM

From what i read here and there I am starting to think that newer 1/3 chip cameras that cost around 3K plus are better in low light than the ea50 with the kit lens. So is the Gy-hm600 better in low light?

I would think the major benefit the EA50 has is being able to use different fast 35mm lens and get a more shallow DOF and create a more cinematic looking video.

On the other hand I would imagine cameras like the Gy-hm600 are easier to use because of easier auto focus and a wide zoom range.

My next major buys are a NEX VG30 and I also want to get a black bird stabilizer. They're only 800 on ebay. But I am definitely curious about the newer 1/3 cameras out there.

Chris Harding · November 5th, 2014, 02:54 AM

If you want a shoulder mount camera (like I do) the 850 rather than the 600 is a LOT more money ... almost double the price and v-Mount batteries cost a fortune too (JVC supply the camera without batteries)

I think I will keep my EA-50's for now ... I don't like JVC's EVF's they are really crappy and I like to work via my EVF and the EA-50 EVF is miles ahead and massive in comparison!!

At my wedding reception in a dark venue last Saturday I didn't even bother with the LED light !! The Sigma 18-35 F1.8 handled everything nicely and you still have a workable DOF at 18mm

One could get the 600 and put it on a shoulder rig but that still leaves me cold due to the EVF on the JVC!

I have my EA-50's working well now and I can share lenses with both Nikon still cameras too..it's a win-win!!

Chris

October 26th, 2014, 11:24 AM	#1
Randy Johnson Trustee Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Newark, Delaware Posts: 1,067	Gy-hm600 Well I got my GY-HM600 I havent taken it on a job yet BUT I might sell my Sony and get another. Not knockin the Sony BUT for me its a great solution! great in low light 23X optical zoom and 35-50 mps record speed. not perfect but really nice.

October 26th, 2014, 12:12 PM	#2
Tom Van den Berghe Major Player Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: BELGIUM Posts: 402	Re: Gy-hm600 And I just received this weekend my new sony HXR-NX3 that has 20x optical zoom and 40x clear image zoom. I used the clear image zoom yesterday on a stage event and it looks really good. I used the nex-ea50 for the wide shots. I don't like color correct 2 brands of camcorders.

October 26th, 2014, 07:37 PM	#3
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	Re: Gy-hm600 Good idea Randy You are definitely a camcorder guy so cameras with good autofocus and exposure suit you perfectly. You don't need the hassles with manual lenses or big sensors either. I would suspect that being comfortable with the 600 is because it's is close to the HMC150 so getting two sounds like a sensible plan ands you should get a good price on the EA-50 to help fund your second JVC camera Chris

October 26th, 2014, 09:09 PM	#4
Randy Johnson Trustee Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Newark, Delaware Posts: 1,067	Re: Gy-hm600 yeah it may be a wash, The JVC is $3000 and I have the Sony with a 17-200 stock lens, a 17-50 , a HVR 128 and a metabones speed booster plus a couple other adapters.. I should be able to get $3000 for all that ya think?

October 27th, 2014, 11:21 AM	#5
Steven Digges Trustee Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,828	Re: Gy-hm600 Randy, I will be very surprised if you come close to $3000.00 for all that stuff. But hey, I am not a wheeler and dealer. I end up hanging on to my stuff for TOO long. Don Bloom, a member here I think you know, is sell his JVC gear. I'm not sure what he has but it might be worth a PM for you. He is a great guy. Steve __________________ www.CorporateShow.com Been at this so long I'm rounding my years of experience down...not up!

October 27th, 2014, 01:42 PM	#6
Randy Johnson Trustee Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Newark, Delaware Posts: 1,067	Re: Gy-hm600 Steve, I dont know if I understood you post, are you saying that stuff would or would not be worth $3000? From what I see the camera alone with stock lense is going for $2000 to $2500 on Ebay.

October 27th, 2014, 02:52 PM	#7
Steven Digges Trustee Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,828	Re: Gy-hm600 Hey Randy, Sony is offering a $800.00 rebate on the EA50, supposedly through December 31. Last year they extended it until July. So the net cost of a brand new EA50 at B&H is $2,400.00 Steve __________________ www.CorporateShow.com Been at this so long I'm rounding my years of experience down...not up!

October 27th, 2014, 06:29 PM	#8
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	Re: Gy-hm600 When I sell old stuff I try to also be realistic! In my books you are dreaming if you think you will get more than about 50% of the retail price. You have had good use from the camera and made money from it so if it was me I would be expecting around 50% of what you paid for the camera and adapter etc etc. I think that would be far more realistic ... otherwise you end up being very disappointed!! From my side I would say yes, $3000 is being very optimistic .... Maybe closer to $2000? Chris

October 27th, 2014, 07:49 PM	#9
Randy Johnson Trustee Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Newark, Delaware Posts: 1,067	Re: Gy-hm600 I always use the $.50 on the dollar as a guide. I was figuring maybe 1,000 to 1,500 for the camera and lens. $250 for the tamron 17-50 $300 for the fmu 128 250 for the metabones speed booster maybe 100 for the other adapters and such. getting close to the $2500- $3000 mark. I think I will just keep it though, its worth more to me in service as a spare then what I would get if I sold it.

October 27th, 2014, 09:02 PM	#10
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	Re: Gy-hm600 Hi Randy I have a simple policy.. if I don't use something for 6 months then it goes on eBay and I buy something that I will use. If you need something and don't want to dip into your bank account, probably put the FMU and the Metabones on eBay as they won't add an awful lot to the camera value ... just keep the cam as a standard unit to use. I would also keep the 17-50 if you still are using your Nikons ..Gosh those are sharp lenses and great for stills ... I actually want a second one so I'll either look for a Sigma or Tamron this week as it's not only a great lens for stills it's also great for video! If you do get rid of the Sony, then just sell it with the 18-200 and you will get a fair price for it!! Just for interest what will you use for weddings now? The HM600 and what second camera?? Chris

October 27th, 2014, 09:28 PM	#11
Randy Johnson Trustee Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Newark, Delaware Posts: 1,067	Re: Gy-hm600 I have 2 kits I would use the GY-HM600 for my main camera and my Panasonic AG-HMC 150s for the 2nd camera. So at the end of the day I will have 2 JVCs and 2 panasonics

November 5th, 2014, 01:32 AM	#12
Francisco Estrada New Boot Join Date: May 2013 Location: Dallas Posts: 18	Re: Gy-hm600 From what i read here and there I am starting to think that newer 1/3 chip cameras that cost around 3K plus are better in low light than the ea50 with the kit lens. So is the Gy-hm600 better in low light? I would think the major benefit the EA50 has is being able to use different fast 35mm lens and get a more shallow DOF and create a more cinematic looking video. On the other hand I would imagine cameras like the Gy-hm600 are easier to use because of easier auto focus and a wide zoom range. My next major buys are a NEX VG30 and I also want to get a black bird stabilizer. They're only 800 on ebay. But I am definitely curious about the newer 1/3 cameras out there.

November 5th, 2014, 02:54 AM	#13
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	Re: Gy-hm600 If you want a shoulder mount camera (like I do) the 850 rather than the 600 is a LOT more money ... almost double the price and v-Mount batteries cost a fortune too (JVC supply the camera without batteries) I think I will keep my EA-50's for now ... I don't like JVC's EVF's they are really crappy and I like to work via my EVF and the EA-50 EVF is miles ahead and massive in comparison!! At my wedding reception in a dark venue last Saturday I didn't even bother with the LED light !! The Sigma 18-35 F1.8 handled everything nicely and you still have a workable DOF at 18mm One could get the 600 and put it on a shoulder rig but that still leaves me cold due to the EVF on the JVC! I have my EA-50's working well now and I can share lenses with both Nikon still cameras too..it's a win-win!! Chris