Lens Question at DVinfo.net

Randy Johnson · August 13th, 2013, 02:48 PM

I am about to be a new owner of r NEX-EA50 and id like some info on lenses. Id like to get lenses with servo capabilitys but what lenses are out there for the EA-50?

Chris Quevedo · August 13th, 2013, 05:48 PM

i think just the one that comes with it, and then Sony also makes a 16-50mm, but thats its

Randy Johnson · August 13th, 2013, 06:50 PM

oh ok hopefully more on the way.

Chris Quevedo · August 13th, 2013, 06:54 PM

yea, they haven't made any announcements about new ones that I've heard of. they may have more coming, but we never can tell

Dmitri Zigany · August 13th, 2013, 07:14 PM

Yeah, the kit lens is pretty decent, but far too slow for me. Wish it had been 2.8-4.5 or something at least. Or even f4 all the way.
But once you have a fast power zoom you're in the $10.000 range all of a sudden... Seems to be a real gap. Who ever could make a pretty good and fast servo lens in the $3000-4000 range would sell like crazy.

Randy Johnson · August 14th, 2013, 06:08 PM

ok I got mine today I am new to the DSLR world its been a long time since I did stills. From what I see out of the box is the low light is awe full. I have to go to 18 db to get enough light it a very well lite room. Am I doing something wrong? Are the other zoom lenses (not servo) that are faster?

Peter Rush · August 15th, 2013, 02:05 AM

Yes the kit lens is not really fast enough for most indoor shooting and has been discussed a lot in this forum - I find it however no worse than the lens on my old Z1 - which was a costlier camera. The kit lens works for me outdoors but for indoors I use a metabones adapter and my Canon lenses (24-105mm for most stuff) the Metabones speedbooster lets you use all your Canon glass and gives you an extra stop of light as well - it is pricey though.

Sigma do a 19mm and 30mm f2.8 NEX lens and sony do a 50mm f1.8 but for me the metabones has been a godsend for dark ceremonies and receptions.

Randy Johnson · August 15th, 2013, 09:54 AM

Thanks for the input I am getting close to figuring this out. I hope NAB will bring us some new glass.

Randy Johnson · August 15th, 2013, 04:21 PM

Will this get me another stop?
Sony NEX System : ALPA Lens to Sony NEX Speed Booster
can I use this with the stock lens? and keep servo?

Chris Quevedo · August 15th, 2013, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy Johnson

ok I got mine today I am new to the DSLR world its been a long time since I did stills. From what I see out of the box is the low light is awe full. I have to go to 18 db to get enough light it a very well lite room. Am I doing something wrong? Are the other zoom lenses (not servo) that are faster?

hi randy.
the lens it comes with is slow so thats why. actually, i recommend not using it to be honest. i know its like one of the big selling points of the nex-ea50, but instead i would recommend get either a regular zoom like a 17-55mm APS-C lens, or a prime like a 50mm f/1.4 and use the digital zoom. because the zoom it comes is crap for light. almost ANY lens will give you more light :-(

Erik Wittbusch · August 19th, 2013, 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy Johnson

Will this get me another stop?
Sony NEX System : ALPA Lens to Sony NEX Speed Booster
can I use this with the stock lens? and keep servo?

You can use a speedbooster for example with some 24-70/2,8 lens from Nikon, Canon, Sigma and the likes.
It will give you 3/4 of a stop more light and 0,72x focal lenght reduction but also boosts the optical shortcomings of your lens.

A 24-70/2,7 will behave like a 17-50/2,0.

It would be much cheaper to get a 17-50/2,8 (from Tamron for example) with Nikon mount and get a Nikon G lens adapter instead. This will cost you 1/2 and you'll lose 1 stop...

Chris Harding · August 19th, 2013, 06:24 AM

Interesting BUT has anyone actually bought/tried the Nikon-NEX Focal Reducer/Speed Booster ... does it really work??

I know James was hankering after one and I think he got one of the Chinese ones but I don't remember any comments after that. Sure they are cheap for around $150 BUT it's still a lot of money if the adapter sits on the shelf cos it's unusable!! James's woes are in this post : http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/sony-nex...l-reducer.html

Anyone actually got a Nikon G/DX to NEX from China/HongKong that they use and can say "these are awesome" I haven't heard anyone on the forum raving about them as yet which is worrying ??? Steven Digges had a Metabones unit too and had mega-hassles with it ..Did that eventually rectify itself Steve???

Comments from anyone that has used them and likes them? The appeal of being able to go 0.72X wider and getting a full stop extra is huge but do they work in the real world??

Chris

Chris Quevedo · August 19th, 2013, 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy Johnson

Will this get me another stop?
Sony NEX System : ALPA Lens to Sony NEX Speed Booster
can I use this with the stock lens? and keep servo?

no that wouldn't work, cause in order for a speed booster to work, the lens would need to be intended for full frame. as this lens was made for sensors that have been made smaller than full frame, you couldn't use it on that lens. plus it seems this adapter doesn't have the correct mount on the lens end. this was made to put full frame Sony lenses on cropped frame Sony cameras. this lens doesn't meet that criteria.

Erik Wittbusch · August 19th, 2013, 08:12 AM

I will go another route for myself.

I'm using the Canon 17-55/2,8 with IS on Metabones adapter.
Works great. But the Canon lens is only borrowed.

I will wait for the new Sigma 24-70/2,0 in Nikon mount and
boost it further with a speedbooster.
Then, I'll have something like a 17-50/1,4 which makes fast
primes almost needless in terms of lowlight capabilities.
The set will be around 1500$ or more and we still have to wait
at least 1 year...

Randy Johnson · August 19th, 2013, 04:21 PM

ok ive been doing a little research (just enough to be dangerous:)) What about using a Sony prime lens (50 mm) with digital zoom? according to some websites that will make a 50 mm and 50-100 with a fixed aperature of 2.8. Downsides? Also how do yo use the digital zoom?

August 13th, 2013, 02:48 PM	#1
Randy Johnson Trustee Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Newark, Delaware Posts: 1,067	Lens Question I am about to be a new owner of r NEX-EA50 and id like some info on lenses. Id like to get lenses with servo capabilitys but what lenses are out there for the EA-50?

August 13th, 2013, 05:48 PM	#2
Chris Quevedo Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Paradise, CA Posts: 158	Re: Lens Question i think just the one that comes with it, and then Sony also makes a 16-50mm, but thats its

August 13th, 2013, 06:50 PM	#3
Randy Johnson Trustee Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Newark, Delaware Posts: 1,067	Re: Lens Question oh ok hopefully more on the way.

August 13th, 2013, 06:54 PM	#4
Chris Quevedo Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Paradise, CA Posts: 158	Re: Lens Question yea, they haven't made any announcements about new ones that I've heard of. they may have more coming, but we never can tell

August 13th, 2013, 07:14 PM	#5
Dmitri Zigany Major Player Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 286	Re: Lens Question Yeah, the kit lens is pretty decent, but far too slow for me. Wish it had been 2.8-4.5 or something at least. Or even f4 all the way. But once you have a fast power zoom you're in the $10.000 range all of a sudden... Seems to be a real gap. Who ever could make a pretty good and fast servo lens in the $3000-4000 range would sell like crazy.

August 14th, 2013, 06:08 PM	#6
Randy Johnson Trustee Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Newark, Delaware Posts: 1,067	Re: Lens Question ok I got mine today I am new to the DSLR world its been a long time since I did stills. From what I see out of the box is the low light is awe full. I have to go to 18 db to get enough light it a very well lite room. Am I doing something wrong? Are the other zoom lenses (not servo) that are faster?

August 15th, 2013, 02:05 AM	#7
Peter Rush Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: UK/Yorkshire Posts: 2,069	Re: Lens Question Yes the kit lens is not really fast enough for most indoor shooting and has been discussed a lot in this forum - I find it however no worse than the lens on my old Z1 - which was a costlier camera. The kit lens works for me outdoors but for indoors I use a metabones adapter and my Canon lenses (24-105mm for most stuff) the Metabones speedbooster lets you use all your Canon glass and gives you an extra stop of light as well - it is pricey though. Sigma do a 19mm and 30mm f2.8 NEX lens and sony do a 50mm f1.8 but for me the metabones has been a godsend for dark ceremonies and receptions.

August 15th, 2013, 09:54 AM	#8
Randy Johnson Trustee Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Newark, Delaware Posts: 1,067	Re: Lens Question Thanks for the input I am getting close to figuring this out. I hope NAB will bring us some new glass.

August 15th, 2013, 04:21 PM	#9
Randy Johnson Trustee Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Newark, Delaware Posts: 1,067	Re: Lens Question Will this get me another stop? Sony NEX System : ALPA Lens to Sony NEX Speed Booster can I use this with the stock lens? and keep servo?

August 19th, 2013, 06:24 AM	#12
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	Re: Lens Question Interesting BUT has anyone actually bought/tried the Nikon-NEX Focal Reducer/Speed Booster ... does it really work?? I know James was hankering after one and I think he got one of the Chinese ones but I don't remember any comments after that. Sure they are cheap for around $150 BUT it's still a lot of money if the adapter sits on the shelf cos it's unusable!! James's woes are in this post : http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/sony-nex...l-reducer.html Anyone actually got a Nikon G/DX to NEX from China/HongKong that they use and can say "these are awesome" I haven't heard anyone on the forum raving about them as yet which is worrying ??? Steven Digges had a Metabones unit too and had mega-hassles with it ..Did that eventually rectify itself Steve??? Comments from anyone that has used them and likes them? The appeal of being able to go 0.72X wider and getting a full stop extra is huge but do they work in the real world?? Chris Last edited by Chris Harding; August 19th, 2013 at 07:09 AM.

August 19th, 2013, 08:12 AM	#14
Erik Wittbusch Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Duisburg Posts: 93	Re: Lens Question I will go another route for myself. I'm using the Canon 17-55/2,8 with IS on Metabones adapter. Works great. But the Canon lens is only borrowed. I will wait for the new Sigma 24-70/2,0 in Nikon mount and boost it further with a speedbooster. Then, I'll have something like a 17-50/1,4 which makes fast primes almost needless in terms of lowlight capabilities. The set will be around 1500$ or more and we still have to wait at least 1 year...

August 19th, 2013, 04:21 PM	#15
Randy Johnson Trustee Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Newark, Delaware Posts: 1,067	Re: Lens Question ok ive been doing a little research (just enough to be dangerous:)) What about using a Sony prime lens (50 mm) with digital zoom? according to some websites that will make a 50 mm and 50-100 with a fixed aperature of 2.8. Downsides? Also how do yo use the digital zoom?