Genus Eclipse ND Fader filter test - Page 2 at DVinfo.net
DV Info Net

Go Back   DV Info Net > Sony XAVC / XDCAM / NXCAM / AVCHD / HDV / DV Camera Systems > Sony Alpha and NEX Camera Systems > Sony NEX-EA50 (all variants)
Register FAQ Today's Posts Buyer's Guides

Sony NEX-EA50 (all variants)
Including NEX-EA50UH / EA50EH / EA50H / EA50UK / EA50EK / EA50K

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old March 28th, 2013, 09:59 PM   #16
New Boot
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 22
Re: Genus Eclipse ND Fader filter test

Yeah, that worked fine. I just forgot it later and zoomed in past 50mm, which resulted in some lens flare (shooting outside mid afternoon).
__________________
Sema Films- www.semafilms.com
Chicago, IL
Wes Browning is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 28th, 2013, 10:00 PM   #17
Major Player
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: East TN
Posts: 415
Re: Genus Eclipse ND Fader filter test

Good deal..
Wait, what size did you get?
__________________
Jerome
www.jeromecloninger.com
Jerome Cloninger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 29th, 2013, 06:56 AM   #18
New Boot
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 22
Re: Genus Eclipse ND Fader filter test

77mm so I could use it on my Rokinon 35mm, and some step down rings so I could use it on the kit lens (67 thread) and a 85mm lens (72 thread)
__________________
Sema Films- www.semafilms.com
Chicago, IL
Wes Browning is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 29th, 2013, 08:03 AM   #19
Major Player
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: East TN
Posts: 415
Re: Genus Eclipse ND Fader filter test

Ok. I was hoping it was the 67mm one that creeped in and the 77 wouldn't. Oh well.
__________________
Jerome
www.jeromecloninger.com
Jerome Cloninger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 29th, 2013, 11:28 AM   #20
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Belgium
Posts: 9,510
Re: Genus Eclipse ND Fader filter test

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wes Browning View Post
77mm so I could use it on my Rokinon 35mm, and some step down rings so I could use it on the kit lens (67 thread) and a 85mm lens (72 thread)
Same set up here, so to be sure, is the rubber lenshood showing in the frame at wide angle lenses?
Noa Put is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 29th, 2013, 12:51 PM   #21
New Boot
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 22
Re: Genus Eclipse ND Fader filter test

Here's some stills showing how it looks with the hood extended and collapsed. This is with the ND filter and rubber hood on the stock lens at 18mm.



__________________
Sema Films- www.semafilms.com
Chicago, IL
Wes Browning is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 29th, 2013, 01:52 PM   #22
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Belgium
Posts: 9,510
Re: Genus Eclipse ND Fader filter test

Which stills? :) Ah, now I see them, took some time to load. So the bit vignetting in the corners on the top pic is from the lenshood?
Noa Put is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 29th, 2013, 02:45 PM   #23
Major Player
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Juneau, AK
Posts: 814
Re: Genus Eclipse ND Fader filter test

So back before the Genus 'Eclipse' version came out, I bought a Heliopan variable ND, as
the Genus variable filter at the time wasn't nearly as good as their 'Eclipse' version. I bought
the 77mm Heliopan, which was the largest one available at the time. As time went by, Heliopan
introduced a 82mm version. I wished I would have got that one, but o well, all my lenses were
77mm or smaller. Then I bought a lens with 82mm threads.....and at nearly the same time, I bought
a B-camera (VG20) to supplement my FS100. So I bought a 82mm Genus Eclipse. The way I
figure it, step up rings are cheap, so get the largest filter you can, to reduce chances of vignetting
at wide angles. I have a 10-20mm lens, and even at 10mm get no vignetting. And I am glad I did,
because soon after, I saw the 'Xume' system and really wanted it! It's nice as you don't have to thread
on and off ND filters, instead just snap them on. However, this introduces another ring, besides the step
up ring, (so that the magnetic system can work) This increase the chances of vignetting, but luckily,
I had got the 82mm, so I still get no vignetting! Just another bonus of getting the largest filter you can. So I can
use one camera with the more 'telephoto' length lenses with the Heliopan filter, and the other
with more 'wide angle' lenses with the Genus. The system works great, and changing filters is a snap.
Gabe Strong is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 29th, 2013, 09:48 PM   #24
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Posts: 148
Re: Genus Eclipse ND Fader filter test

Gabe, seeing that you own both have you had a chance to compare the Genus Eclipse to the Heliopan? I've been using the Heliopan which I really like, but I prefer to have two of everything just in case stuff breaks at a shoot, hence was considering getting the Genus Eclipse.
Peter Siamidis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 30th, 2013, 12:02 AM   #25
Major Player
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Juneau, AK
Posts: 814
Re: Genus Eclipse ND Fader filter test

Yup, I will be posting a video comparison of them on my blog soon. Suffice it to say for now, that
I am VERY pleased with the Genus Eclipse version of their fader filter. Also, be aware that it IS
a little different than the Heliopan, the Heliopan gives you roughly 1-6 stops of ND while the Eclipse
is roughly 2-8 stops.
Gabe Strong is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 30th, 2013, 04:07 PM   #26
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Belgium
Posts: 9,510
Re: Genus Eclipse ND Fader filter test

Quote:
will be posting a video comparison of them on my blog soon
Pls let us know when that video is "live", would be interesting to see.
Noa Put is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 31st, 2013, 09:44 AM   #27
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Germany
Posts: 176
Re: Genus Eclipse ND Fader filter test

Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Siamidis View Post
Gabe, seeing that you own both have you had a chance to compare the Genus Eclipse to the Heliopan? I've been using the Heliopan which I really like, but I prefer to have two of everything just in case stuff breaks at a shoot, hence was considering getting the Genus Eclipse.
Have a look: ND Fader Shootout – Heliopan vs. the new GENUS Eclipse | Frank Glencairn
Frank Glencairn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 31st, 2013, 10:06 AM   #28
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Belgium
Posts: 9,510
Re: Genus Eclipse ND Fader filter test

Thx Frank!
Noa Put is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 31st, 2013, 07:33 PM   #29
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Posts: 148
Re: Genus Eclipse ND Fader filter test

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank Glencairn View Post
Thanks! I wish he did some bokeh comparisons since what I film is 50-200mm shallow dof portrait stuff, not so much rooftops or wide shots. I've seen reviews of other variable nd filters where they showed how the cheaper ones added noise to the bokeh, whereas keeping boken intact is what the heliopan excels at. In any case I guess I'll find out since I ordered one, it's only $170 with the hood so what the heck.
Peter Siamidis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 3rd, 2013, 09:03 AM   #30
Major Player
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: East TN
Posts: 415
Re: Genus Eclipse ND Fader filter test

Quote:
Originally Posted by Noa Put View Post
So Jerome, it's safe to get this one, no focusing issues at all. :)
So let me first say that shipping from Hong Kong was VERY FAST! Ordered on March 29, Received tracking number yesterday and it arrived today!
I popped this sucker on my camera and went out and filmed a few quick things and WHOA! This filter is great!

FYI, Cokin responded to my video I posted on vimeo saying that it was a defective filter, blah blah. I sent them an email saying I already sent it back. They said they'll send me a "correct" filter to test out. We'll see. If I get one from them, I'll do a side by side comparison considering they're within $10 of each other. Unless the correct filter is leaps and bounds better than the Eclipse, I'm keeping the Eclipse due to the cool rubber lens hood. That will come in handy.
__________________
Jerome
www.jeromecloninger.com
Jerome Cloninger is offline   Reply
Reply

DV Info Net refers all where-to-buy and where-to-rent questions exclusively to these trusted full line dealers and rental houses...

B&H Photo Video
(866) 521-7381
New York, NY USA

Scan Computers Int. Ltd.
+44 0871-472-4747
Bolton, Lancashire UK


DV Info Net also encourages you to support local businesses and buy from an authorized dealer in your neighborhood.
  You are here: DV Info Net > Sony XAVC / XDCAM / NXCAM / AVCHD / HDV / DV Camera Systems > Sony Alpha and NEX Camera Systems > Sony NEX-EA50 (all variants)


 



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:34 AM.


DV Info Net -- Real Names, Real People, Real Info!
1998-2024 The Digital Video Information Network