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Wayne Dear · April 10th, 2011, 04:26 AM

Hello all,

Just a question if anyone has some input on this issue, I am using Sony's default Flash Card that came shipped with the Z7, and am noticing at the 4gb file split the audio drops out for a second, picture also loses 1-2 frames, is this a known issue with CF cards? seems like the card has issues, I am buying some Transcend cards tommorow, 16g 400x, run some tests with them see if I still get same issue....

Also am noticing on tape recording as well, on playback its dropping frames here and there, upon playing back on my viewfinder on my Z7 it like freezes? exact same spot each time, I thought it may have been faulty tape, but its happening allmost once on every tape, its a brand new - Replacement - Z7 Sony gave me recently, now im doing lots of work with it, im noticing these little issues.

Yes I ran the Sony headcleaning tape through it, and I do not get the dreaded "Dirty Head error" upon trying to record, it just seems really random, but I have come to the conclusion it is Camera issue side, not editing.

Cheers

Wayne D

Brian Mackey · April 10th, 2011, 07:25 AM

I have a new Z7U 3 weeks old and it didnt come with a CF card, and sony says they no longer make them, so that seems odd. I dont know anyhting about the tape side of things Im shooting only to cards. I am using Transcend 133x cards without issue. Well so far anyway.

Rob Morse · April 10th, 2011, 08:09 AM

Are you using the Sony RTU (Recording Unit Utility)? That is what stitches together files larger than 4 GB.

Wayne Dear · April 10th, 2011, 09:32 AM

Rob, I use the unit, but did not know of the software for it, never really used it, will try it out and see what happens. - Update - Thank You Rob, it solved the issue, no sound drop or frame loss now :)

I was thinking of the 133x cards but will try the 400x ones instead. I have allways been tapes, but with the quality CF cards around now, it may be worthwhile for me to look at changing to CF as main recording.

Cheers

Rob Morse · April 10th, 2011, 10:42 AM

Glad it worked. I'm with you on the speed. I won't use cards under 300x but a lot of people have success using the 133x cards.

Wayne Dear · April 11th, 2011, 03:23 AM

I emailed Sony about the tape issue, and it freezing like when u hit pause for a second, and to my amazement they dont even want to look at it, and have ordered another replacement unit, am I missing something here, seems maybe this is a known fault or something to not even want to look at the unit and just replace it again.

I have ordered a 32g Sandisk 400x online for $200, was either buy online for that or buy at local Harvey Norman for $300, hmmm I wonder what option I will take...

If I like cards more I shal order more :)

John Knight · April 15th, 2011, 01:12 AM

Get Transcend 133x 32gb from www.memory10.com They are all you need. Rock solid. I've filmed 100+ weddings over 2 years and never skipped a frame. US$65

Zach Love · May 1st, 2011, 07:52 PM

Couple things...

1. Format every time in the MRC1. I find this helps reduce errors when going into FCP.

2. Also, while 133x is fine, go faster. The cards have widely gone down in price & up in speed. When you go to off load the footage you'll save time. And isn't that what this is all about?

3. If you have FW 800, get a Lexar FW800 card reader. I got mine from BestBuy's overstock site for about $40 years ago. Only downside with the unit is I love it so much that it now pains me whenever I have to use a USB card reader for SDHC cards.

Wayne Dear · May 9th, 2011, 01:11 AM

Cheers,

I bought five SanDisk Extreme CF 400x, and all seems great, and saved alot of time, as I dont need to run back tape :)

I also have a Card reader in my PC, takes every card, including CF, and using the MRU software it picks it up, and seems quicker than plugging the MRU into 1394 port.

Working a treat.

Thanks for input

Wayne Dear.

April 10th, 2011, 04:26 AM	#1
Wayne Dear Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Albury NSW Posts: 46	CF Sony 8GB Recording Issue Hello all, Just a question if anyone has some input on this issue, I am using Sony's default Flash Card that came shipped with the Z7, and am noticing at the 4gb file split the audio drops out for a second, picture also loses 1-2 frames, is this a known issue with CF cards? seems like the card has issues, I am buying some Transcend cards tommorow, 16g 400x, run some tests with them see if I still get same issue.... Also am noticing on tape recording as well, on playback its dropping frames here and there, upon playing back on my viewfinder on my Z7 it like freezes? exact same spot each time, I thought it may have been faulty tape, but its happening allmost once on every tape, its a brand new - Replacement - Z7 Sony gave me recently, now im doing lots of work with it, im noticing these little issues. Yes I ran the Sony headcleaning tape through it, and I do not get the dreaded "Dirty Head error" upon trying to record, it just seems really random, but I have come to the conclusion it is Camera issue side, not editing. Cheers Wayne D

April 10th, 2011, 07:25 AM	#2
Brian Mackey Tourist Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Providence, RI Posts: 4	Re: CF Sony 8GB Recording Issue I have a new Z7U 3 weeks old and it didnt come with a CF card, and sony says they no longer make them, so that seems odd. I dont know anyhting about the tape side of things Im shooting only to cards. I am using Transcend 133x cards without issue. Well so far anyway.

April 10th, 2011, 08:09 AM	#3
Rob Morse Major Player Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 427	Re: CF Sony 8GB Recording Issue Are you using the Sony RTU (Recording Unit Utility)? That is what stitches together files larger than 4 GB.

April 10th, 2011, 09:32 AM	#4
Wayne Dear Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Albury NSW Posts: 46	Re: CF Sony 8GB Recording Issue Rob, I use the unit, but did not know of the software for it, never really used it, will try it out and see what happens. - Update - Thank You Rob, it solved the issue, no sound drop or frame loss now :) I was thinking of the 133x cards but will try the 400x ones instead. I have allways been tapes, but with the quality CF cards around now, it may be worthwhile for me to look at changing to CF as main recording. Cheers Last edited by Wayne Dear; April 10th, 2011 at 10:05 AM.

April 10th, 2011, 10:42 AM	#5
Rob Morse Major Player Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 427	Re: CF Sony 8GB Recording Issue Glad it worked. I'm with you on the speed. I won't use cards under 300x but a lot of people have success using the 133x cards.

April 11th, 2011, 03:23 AM	#6
Wayne Dear Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Albury NSW Posts: 46	Re: CF Sony 8GB Recording Issue I emailed Sony about the tape issue, and it freezing like when u hit pause for a second, and to my amazement they dont even want to look at it, and have ordered another replacement unit, am I missing something here, seems maybe this is a known fault or something to not even want to look at the unit and just replace it again. I have ordered a 32g Sandisk 400x online for $200, was either buy online for that or buy at local Harvey Norman for $300, hmmm I wonder what option I will take... If I like cards more I shal order more :)

April 15th, 2011, 01:12 AM	#7
John Knight Major Player Join Date: May 2008 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 588	Re: CF Sony 8GB Recording Issue Get Transcend 133x 32gb from www.memory10.com They are all you need. Rock solid. I've filmed 100+ weddings over 2 years and never skipped a frame. US$65

May 1st, 2011, 07:52 PM	#8
Zach Love Major Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 944	Re: CF Sony 8GB Recording Issue Couple things... 1. Format every time in the MRC1. I find this helps reduce errors when going into FCP. 2. Also, while 133x is fine, go faster. The cards have widely gone down in price & up in speed. When you go to off load the footage you'll save time. And isn't that what this is all about? 3. If you have FW 800, get a Lexar FW800 card reader. I got mine from BestBuy's overstock site for about $40 years ago. Only downside with the unit is I love it so much that it now pains me whenever I have to use a USB card reader for SDHC cards. __________________ Nothing says you're a serious video maker like S-VHS

May 9th, 2011, 01:11 AM	#9
Wayne Dear Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Albury NSW Posts: 46	Re: CF Sony 8GB Recording Issue Cheers, I bought five SanDisk Extreme CF 400x, and all seems great, and saved alot of time, as I dont need to run back tape :) I also have a Card reader in my PC, takes every card, including CF, and using the MRU software it picks it up, and seems quicker than plugging the MRU into 1394 port. Working a treat. Thanks for input Wayne Dear.