Should I be capturing Pro Res or HDV? at DVinfo.net

Alan Jones · December 20th, 2010, 02:35 AM

So I've read a lot on here about whether to capture HDV from my Z7 or transcode to Pro Res but I'm still a bit confused. I'm working on a documentary and the hope is that it might be broadcast. If I capture as HDV and have my render set to pro res and then need to send my finished edit to color will it be fine or will color not like that? I know color doesn't like working with HDV.
Also does all of this have any bearing on final output? I don't want to get to the end of the whole editing process and someone tell me I should have done something differently.
I am just getting a bit confused about the different codecs at different stages I think!
This is the first time I'm posting on here so hope this all makes sense.

Claire Buckley · December 20th, 2010, 05:24 AM

Hi Alan.

If indeed you are shooting with a view to broadcast, then you need to discuss your project with the intended broadcaster as to what their delivery requirements are.

In the past my UK-based commissioning editors gave good advice and referred me to their technical people first (assuming they bought into your pitch and they couldn't plagerise your idea). Your contract will stipulate their required delivery. However, I think you might need to secure the broadcast deal first (selling the idea and generating presales) if you intend your work to be published further afield, then you can match the technicals to the required delivery.

Personally, I would not shoot in HDV if your project is aimed principally at the broadcast market (especially in the UK) unless the subject demands a low profile and involves difficult (limited space) locations.

Having said all this, some cable and satellite channels might feel this is acceptable dependant upon the content.

Nowadays I shoot principally for DVD where HDV is very acceptable, but broadcast will require upping the recorded bitrates to at least 50mbps or higher and the use of 4:2:2 colour space.

Good luck with your project.

Alan Jones · December 20th, 2010, 09:24 AM

Thanks for replying Claire. I know it's not an ideal way of shooting but it's all we have so it's what we've got to use. I was recently talking to a camera man who had just finished filming a documentary for the BBC and he'd used a Z5 for it so I think it is possible if the content is there.
We're shooting the film because we really want to make it. It's the first time we're making something of this length and if it gets taken up or if anything comes from it then great. We just thought we'd get on and do it and it's been a fantastic learning experience so far!

Claire Buckley · December 20th, 2010, 02:53 PM

The following may help for the future:

BBC - Commissioning - Producing High-Definition TV

Good luck.

Alan Jones · December 21st, 2010, 10:26 AM

Cheers Claire! Had a good read of it.

December 20th, 2010, 02:35 AM	#1
Alan Jones Tourist Join Date: May 2009 Location: Hull United Kingdom Posts: 3	Should I be capturing Pro Res or HDV? So I've read a lot on here about whether to capture HDV from my Z7 or transcode to Pro Res but I'm still a bit confused. I'm working on a documentary and the hope is that it might be broadcast. If I capture as HDV and have my render set to pro res and then need to send my finished edit to color will it be fine or will color not like that? I know color doesn't like working with HDV. Also does all of this have any bearing on final output? I don't want to get to the end of the whole editing process and someone tell me I should have done something differently. I am just getting a bit confused about the different codecs at different stages I think! This is the first time I'm posting on here so hope this all makes sense.

December 20th, 2010, 05:24 AM	#2
Claire Buckley Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: UK Posts: 176	Hi Alan. If indeed you are shooting with a view to broadcast, then you need to discuss your project with the intended broadcaster as to what their delivery requirements are. In the past my UK-based commissioning editors gave good advice and referred me to their technical people first (assuming they bought into your pitch and they couldn't plagerise your idea). Your contract will stipulate their required delivery. However, I think you might need to secure the broadcast deal first (selling the idea and generating presales) if you intend your work to be published further afield, then you can match the technicals to the required delivery. Personally, I would not shoot in HDV if your project is aimed principally at the broadcast market (especially in the UK) unless the subject demands a low profile and involves difficult (limited space) locations. Having said all this, some cable and satellite channels might feel this is acceptable dependant upon the content. Nowadays I shoot principally for DVD where HDV is very acceptable, but broadcast will require upping the recorded bitrates to at least 50mbps or higher and the use of 4:2:2 colour space. Good luck with your project. __________________ Women don't hit harder, they just hit lower!

December 20th, 2010, 02:53 PM	#4
Claire Buckley Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: UK Posts: 176	The following may help for the future: BBC - Commissioning - Producing High-Definition TV Good luck. __________________ Women don't hit harder, they just hit lower!

December 20th, 2010, 09:24 AM	#3
Alan Jones Tourist Join Date: May 2009 Location: Hull United Kingdom Posts: 3	Thanks for replying Claire. I know it's not an ideal way of shooting but it's all we have so it's what we've got to use. I was recently talking to a camera man who had just finished filming a documentary for the BBC and he'd used a Z5 for it so I think it is possible if the content is there. We're shooting the film because we really want to make it. It's the first time we're making something of this length and if it gets taken up or if anything comes from it then great. We just thought we'd get on and do it and it's been a fantastic learning experience so far!

December 21st, 2010, 10:26 AM	#5
Alan Jones Tourist Join Date: May 2009 Location: Hull United Kingdom Posts: 3	Cheers Claire! Had a good read of it.