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Mac Treouser · February 13th, 2009, 03:36 AM

Hi,

Seems FX1000 became a very hot topic recently...i'm wondering which to invest...need your helps here and give some idea or suggestion to grab it...

I'm using it for indoor-Cencert (simple lighting) + interviewing + Live Feed...

Z7U or FX1000 s'ld i grab for it and why?
you even can recommend other models here...

Thanks and appreciate!!!

Tom Hardwick · February 13th, 2009, 09:16 AM

Seems odd to have the Z7 in one hand and the FX1000 in the other. I could understand it if you'd said Z5.

The Z7 is much better in low light simply because the interchangeable lens doesn't ramp anywhere near as much as the FX's, so how well lit will your indoor shots be? And won't you need radio and shotgun mics? Easy when there's XLRs built into the camera.

The Z7 will probably hold its value better than the FX - or at least find a wider audience in 3 years time.

tom.

Mac Treouser · February 13th, 2009, 09:43 AM

Hi Tom,

C'ld i said You are highly recommended the Z5 for a production House ?

What bout if compare the Z5 with the Pana-HMC150?They both are came with new tech...Might need your analysis...Thanks

Tom Hardwick · February 13th, 2009, 10:07 AM

The Z5 and the 151 (I'm in PAL land) are an interesting pair. The Z5 is nicer made, has a much longer zoom, a far better placed top screen, has lots of useful slow shutter speeds, records to tape and CF and costs a whole lot more.

The 151 has CCDs (which react to electronic flash a lot better than the Z5's CMOS). It has a tiny bit more wide-angle but a whole lot less telephoto, and will need a computer with far more grunt to edit the AVCHD files.

tom.

Mac Treouser · February 13th, 2009, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Hardwick

The Z5 and the 151 (I'm in PAL land) are an interesting pair. The Z5 is nicer made, has a much longer zoom, a far better placed top screen, has lots of useful slow shutter speeds, records to tape and CF and costs a whole lot more.

The 151 has CCDs (which react to electronic flash a lot better than the Z5's CMOS). It has a tiny bit more wide-angle but a whole lot less telephoto, and will need a computer with far more grunt to edit the AVCHD files.

tom.

So,These 2 will be your recommendation,right? Z5 from Sony and HMC150 from Pana...

AVCHD will be your consideration when choosing a camera for Post-Production issue?

Tom Hardwick · February 13th, 2009, 11:14 AM

I can't 'recommend' either camera because I don't know what you want to use them for, don't know how much money you have and don't know if your computer is up to editing the footage.

They're both good cameras, but then the EX1 is better than either of them, and the VX2100 is worse.

Greg Laves · February 13th, 2009, 06:52 PM

Howdy Mac. Back to the original question between the FX1000 and the Z7. If you are already considering a Z7 then I would figure you already know that it costs a lot more than the FX1000. If you are not concerned about the price difference, then the Z7 has a lot more to offer for the professional than the FX1000. No contest. Pardon me if I am wrong, but you seem to be jumping all over the map. And maybe I am reading the posts wrong but you seem to be drawing the opposite conclusion to what Tom seems to be saying. For example, Tom was saying that you need more computing power to be able to work with AVCHD and your response was "AVCHD will be your consideration when choosing a camera for Post-Production issue?" I don't think that is what Tom meant. At least I didn't read it that way.

Tom Hardwick · February 14th, 2009, 02:16 AM

You're right Greg, that's not what tom meant. And yes, in the list of cameras mentioned so far the Z7 is head and shoulders above the rest.

Zach Love · February 21st, 2009, 12:18 AM

If anything, get the Z5, Z7 or something card based.

The ONLY reason why people are still using tape is b/c the industry changes about as quickly as horse walking through thick mud.

Tape is NOT dead yet, but just like Standard-Def, everyone is going tapless HD & the only reason why everyone hasn't switched over is the expensive cost.

Price wise Z7 = Z5 + MRC1. These two cameras work great in today's workflow & will work in tomorrows workflow too.

FX1000 will have the same picture quality as the Z7 or Z5, because as I understand it, they're using the same internal components.

EX1 or EX3 are two heavily praised cameras. P2 has some advantages to it, but over all it has taken a nasty beating from Sony last year.

AVCHD is another way to go, although you have to have a new computer (last couple years), to be able to do anything w/ the footage. But you'll run into that with nearly anything HD.

Overall depending on how much money you have, these are my picks.

$
Canon HF series (100, 10, 11, 200 etc.)

$$
Panasonic HMC-150

$$$
Sony Z7 (1st pick)
Sony Z5 + MRC1 (If you KNOW you won't ever use a different lens, buy the Z5 for the 20x zoom)

$$$$
Sony EX1

$$$$$$
Sony EX3

February 13th, 2009, 03:36 AM	#1
Mac Treouser Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Singapore Posts: 43	HVR-Z7U or HDR-FX1000 Hi, Seems FX1000 became a very hot topic recently...i'm wondering which to invest...need your helps here and give some idea or suggestion to grab it... I'm using it for indoor-Cencert (simple lighting) + interviewing + Live Feed... Z7U or FX1000 s'ld i grab for it and why? you even can recommend other models here... Thanks and appreciate!!!

February 13th, 2009, 09:16 AM	#2
Tom Hardwick Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Billericay, England UK Posts: 4,711	Seems odd to have the Z7 in one hand and the FX1000 in the other. I could understand it if you'd said Z5. The Z7 is much better in low light simply because the interchangeable lens doesn't ramp anywhere near as much as the FX's, so how well lit will your indoor shots be? And won't you need radio and shotgun mics? Easy when there's XLRs built into the camera. The Z7 will probably hold its value better than the FX - or at least find a wider audience in 3 years time. tom.

February 13th, 2009, 09:43 AM	#3
Mac Treouser Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Singapore Posts: 43	Hi Tom, C'ld i said You are highly recommended the Z5 for a production House ? What bout if compare the Z5 with the Pana-HMC150?They both are came with new tech...Might need your analysis...Thanks

February 13th, 2009, 10:07 AM	#4
Tom Hardwick Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Billericay, England UK Posts: 4,711	The Z5 and the 151 (I'm in PAL land) are an interesting pair. The Z5 is nicer made, has a much longer zoom, a far better placed top screen, has lots of useful slow shutter speeds, records to tape and CF and costs a whole lot more. The 151 has CCDs (which react to electronic flash a lot better than the Z5's CMOS). It has a tiny bit more wide-angle but a whole lot less telephoto, and will need a computer with far more grunt to edit the AVCHD files. tom.

February 13th, 2009, 11:14 AM	#6
Tom Hardwick Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Billericay, England UK Posts: 4,711	I can't 'recommend' either camera because I don't know what you want to use them for, don't know how much money you have and don't know if your computer is up to editing the footage. They're both good cameras, but then the EX1 is better than either of them, and the VX2100 is worse.

February 13th, 2009, 06:52 PM	#7
Greg Laves Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Corpus Christi, TX Posts: 640	Howdy Mac. Back to the original question between the FX1000 and the Z7. If you are already considering a Z7 then I would figure you already know that it costs a lot more than the FX1000. If you are not concerned about the price difference, then the Z7 has a lot more to offer for the professional than the FX1000. No contest. Pardon me if I am wrong, but you seem to be jumping all over the map. And maybe I am reading the posts wrong but you seem to be drawing the opposite conclusion to what Tom seems to be saying. For example, Tom was saying that you need more computing power to be able to work with AVCHD and your response was "AVCHD will be your consideration when choosing a camera for Post-Production issue?" I don't think that is what Tom meant. At least I didn't read it that way.

February 14th, 2009, 02:16 AM	#8
Tom Hardwick Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Billericay, England UK Posts: 4,711	You're right Greg, that's not what tom meant. And yes, in the list of cameras mentioned so far the Z7 is head and shoulders above the rest.

February 21st, 2009, 12:18 AM	#9
Zach Love Major Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 944	If anything, get the Z5, Z7 or something card based. The ONLY reason why people are still using tape is b/c the industry changes about as quickly as horse walking through thick mud. Tape is NOT dead yet, but just like Standard-Def, everyone is going tapless HD & the only reason why everyone hasn't switched over is the expensive cost. Price wise Z7 = Z5 + MRC1. These two cameras work great in today's workflow & will work in tomorrows workflow too. FX1000 will have the same picture quality as the Z7 or Z5, because as I understand it, they're using the same internal components. EX1 or EX3 are two heavily praised cameras. P2 has some advantages to it, but over all it has taken a nasty beating from Sony last year. AVCHD is another way to go, although you have to have a new computer (last couple years), to be able to do anything w/ the footage. But you'll run into that with nearly anything HD. Overall depending on how much money you have, these are my picks. $ Canon HF series (100, 10, 11, 200 etc.) $$ Panasonic HMC-150 $$$ Sony Z7 (1st pick) Sony Z5 + MRC1 (If you KNOW you won't ever use a different lens, buy the Z5 for the 20x zoom) $$$$ Sony EX1 $$$$$$ Sony EX3