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Ed Plamondon · July 15th, 2008, 12:00 AM

Hi there,
I wanted to see what luck some of you are having with Log & Transfer in Final Cut.
It seems I'm getting hit & miss results on ingesting files. Typically the native 24p files are the ones that have the inconsistent results. Some files simply won't import. I'll get the spinning wheel, then the red exclamation mark.

I've read other posts that do mention this, but nothing that has lead to a resolution. And it's not as if a file will import after trying a few times. It seems as the pesky files remain troublesome. However, they still playback from the card - so the data isn't corrupt.

So at this point, I'm wondering how many folks are having this issue. My camera is fairly new, so I'm just testing all this stuff now. But the reality is, I don't want to get stuck on a job, or have to always have files that 'need to be dealt with' because it's buggy.

So, if this IS something you're seeing... what have you done to deal with it? Is there something I should be doing? Incidentally, I have seem similar things even on the Panasonic boards. But even there, the responses just fade away without much resolution - hence this new thread.

On another note - anyone with info whether or not we'll ever be able to preview HDV clips in the Log & Transfer tool? Perhaps in an update? I realize I can view them in mpeg streamclip - but boy, wouldn't it be nice to preview them and make some notes, or rename them prior to ingest?

Thanks in advance,
Ed

Gary Nattrass · July 15th, 2008, 03:46 AM

Sigh......my Cf will still not work at all with fcp 6.04. I have had several calls with sony and still no joy, (thanks to Ben at sony for your help so far)

It does work with avid media composer so I am now using that for any jobs that need CF quick import.

I cant understand it all my software is up to date on the i-mac and the macbook pro and the CF unit or a sandisk firewire reader mounts and I can see the files but they just dont appear in the log and transfer window.

Ed Plamondon · July 15th, 2008, 09:42 AM

So your Log and Transfer won't even see it?
Mine sees it just fine... and the first time I tried to ingest, NONE of my 24p clips would transfer. With my most recent tests... MOST will transfer, but there are always a couple stragglers. I tried with 30p clips as well and had some hit and miss results too.

I'm certainly hoping for 100% transfer. That's what should be expected anyway.

anyone been having successful results? As it is, I read reviews of the cam and the workflow and all the folks writing these say 'files transfered without a hitch'.
Who are these people and why is it all working for them?

Max Carlson · July 15th, 2008, 10:25 PM

It's all working really well for me. I've been transferring 24p footage with no hiccups at all. 100% transfer. The longest clip so far was 35mins and it transferred without problems. I'm running OS X 10.5.2 and final cut pro 6.0.3 on an 8core xeon w/ 9gb ram.

I transfer using the firewire dock that comes with the Z7U.

Gary Nattrass · July 16th, 2008, 02:40 AM

My systems are as follows:

1: Macbook pro 17 in screen 2.16g intel
2gb ram
osx 10.5.4
FCP 6.0.4
QT 7.5.0

2: I-mac 24in screen 2.8g intel
4gb ram
osx 10.5.4
FCP 6.0.4
QT 7.5.0

Both have the latest sony plug in installed and I have tried using the CF reader with the dock and a sandisk firewire reader with no other devices or drives atatched. The CF card mounts and I can even see the folders and files within log and transfer add folder+add custom path but nothing appears in the main window and the m2t files are greyed out.

Jae Staats · September 20th, 2008, 07:04 PM

I just purchased my new HVR-Z7 and I can't get Final Cut Pro to recognize the Compact Flash files from the memory recording device. I have the latest version of FCP, the updated Sony plug-in and on a Mac Pro with the latest OS.

Also, after installing the latest plugin from Sony, I do not see it in the FCP plugin's folder? It seems to install properly so should it be physically there in the plugin folder (library/applicationsupport/finnal cutprosystemsupport/plugins)?

Looks like this thread may be dead a bit but if anyone has suggestions, please let me know? I did get the 'log and transfer' to recognize some P2 footage last week though...

Thanks!

Gary Nattrass · September 21st, 2008, 02:36 AM

Hi Jae I sent you a PM but just to follow up this is what I am now using:ClipWrap

It is very good although I am still getting problems with a couple of clips but Mike is working on fixes for this.

Liam Leahy · October 11th, 2008, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Nattrass

Hi Jae I sent you a PM but just to follow up this is what I am now using:ClipWrap

It is very good although I am still getting problems with a couple of clips but Mike is working on fixes for this.

Can you tell me what kind of problems you are having. I am worried now as I transcoded (or wrapped) a TB of clips (in batches broken up by day...not all at once) from a summer shoot...and ditched the M2t files (stupid...I know). What should I look for? I cant get final cut to easily replace these new files with the old ones, so there must be some variance. Is it a drop-frame thing or entire clips not wrapping? Thanks...

Gary Nattrass · October 12th, 2008, 04:25 AM

I had problems with some clips causing clipwrap to crash, this has now been sorted and all is working OK with clipwrap.

The sony plug-in still does not work with FCP log and transfer but I am very happy with my workflow from compact flash on the Z7 and S270 cameras I have.

I drop the files into clipwrap, make a cup of tea whilst they process into a folder, I then import the folder into FCP as a bin and bingo off we go editing.

Zach Love · October 21st, 2008, 10:17 AM

I was having trouble w/ a Transcend 16GB 133x card missing clips on transfer all the time. I sent it back to newegg & got a replacement.

In the mean time I upgraded to a Lexar FW800 card reader that was on sale at Bestbuy online, got my Sony 8GB rebate CF card in the mail & had no problems w/ it at all. So I bought a Transcend 8GB 300x card.

Now I've got a couple misses w/ the Transcend cards, but on a second try it brings the clips in. I don't think I have had any trouble w/ the Sony card. (800FW also speeds things up nicely.)

I'd say if you're having problems, see if you can exchange your CF card for a faster one.

July 15th, 2008, 12:00 AM	#1
Ed Plamondon New Boot Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: USA Posts: 23	Log & Transfer in Final Cut Hi there, I wanted to see what luck some of you are having with Log & Transfer in Final Cut. It seems I'm getting hit & miss results on ingesting files. Typically the native 24p files are the ones that have the inconsistent results. Some files simply won't import. I'll get the spinning wheel, then the red exclamation mark. I've read other posts that do mention this, but nothing that has lead to a resolution. And it's not as if a file will import after trying a few times. It seems as the pesky files remain troublesome. However, they still playback from the card - so the data isn't corrupt. So at this point, I'm wondering how many folks are having this issue. My camera is fairly new, so I'm just testing all this stuff now. But the reality is, I don't want to get stuck on a job, or have to always have files that 'need to be dealt with' because it's buggy. So, if this IS something you're seeing... what have you done to deal with it? Is there something I should be doing? Incidentally, I have seem similar things even on the Panasonic boards. But even there, the responses just fade away without much resolution - hence this new thread. On another note - anyone with info whether or not we'll ever be able to preview HDV clips in the Log & Transfer tool? Perhaps in an update? I realize I can view them in mpeg streamclip - but boy, wouldn't it be nice to preview them and make some notes, or rename them prior to ingest? Thanks in advance, Ed

July 15th, 2008, 03:46 AM	#2
Gary Nattrass Trustee Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cornsay Durham UK Posts: 1,992	Sigh......my Cf will still not work at all with fcp 6.04. I have had several calls with sony and still no joy, (thanks to Ben at sony for your help so far) It does work with avid media composer so I am now using that for any jobs that need CF quick import. I cant understand it all my software is up to date on the i-mac and the macbook pro and the CF unit or a sandisk firewire reader mounts and I can see the files but they just dont appear in the log and transfer window. __________________ Over 15 minutes in Broadcast Film and TV production: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1044352/

July 15th, 2008, 10:25 PM	#4
Max Carlson New Boot Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 7	works well for me It's all working really well for me. I've been transferring 24p footage with no hiccups at all. 100% transfer. The longest clip so far was 35mins and it transferred without problems. I'm running OS X 10.5.2 and final cut pro 6.0.3 on an 8core xeon w/ 9gb ram. I transfer using the firewire dock that comes with the Z7U.

July 16th, 2008, 02:40 AM	#5
Gary Nattrass Trustee Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cornsay Durham UK Posts: 1,992	My systems are as follows: 1: Macbook pro 17 in screen 2.16g intel 2gb ram osx 10.5.4 FCP 6.0.4 QT 7.5.0 2: I-mac 24in screen 2.8g intel 4gb ram osx 10.5.4 FCP 6.0.4 QT 7.5.0 Both have the latest sony plug in installed and I have tried using the CF reader with the dock and a sandisk firewire reader with no other devices or drives atatched. The CF card mounts and I can even see the folders and files within log and transfer add folder+add custom path but nothing appears in the main window and the m2t files are greyed out. __________________ Over 15 minutes in Broadcast Film and TV production: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1044352/

September 20th, 2008, 07:04 PM	#6
Jae Staats Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: United States Posts: 51	I just purchased my new HVR-Z7 and I can't get Final Cut Pro to recognize the Compact Flash files from the memory recording device. I have the latest version of FCP, the updated Sony plug-in and on a Mac Pro with the latest OS. Also, after installing the latest plugin from Sony, I do not see it in the FCP plugin's folder? It seems to install properly so should it be physically there in the plugin folder (library/applicationsupport/finnal cutprosystemsupport/plugins)? Looks like this thread may be dead a bit but if anyone has suggestions, please let me know? I did get the 'log and transfer' to recognize some P2 footage last week though... Thanks! Last edited by Jae Staats; September 20th, 2008 at 07:45 PM.

July 15th, 2008, 09:42 AM	#3
Ed Plamondon New Boot Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: USA Posts: 23	So your Log and Transfer won't even see it? Mine sees it just fine... and the first time I tried to ingest, NONE of my 24p clips would transfer. With my most recent tests... MOST will transfer, but there are always a couple stragglers. I tried with 30p clips as well and had some hit and miss results too. I'm certainly hoping for 100% transfer. That's what should be expected anyway. anyone been having successful results? As it is, I read reviews of the cam and the workflow and all the folks writing these say 'files transfered without a hitch'. Who are these people and why is it all working for them?

September 21st, 2008, 02:36 AM	#7
Gary Nattrass Trustee Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cornsay Durham UK Posts: 1,992	Hi Jae I sent you a PM but just to follow up this is what I am now using:ClipWrap It is very good although I am still getting problems with a couple of clips but Mike is working on fixes for this. __________________ Over 15 minutes in Broadcast Film and TV production: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1044352/

October 12th, 2008, 04:25 AM	#9
Gary Nattrass Trustee Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cornsay Durham UK Posts: 1,992	I had problems with some clips causing clipwrap to crash, this has now been sorted and all is working OK with clipwrap. The sony plug-in still does not work with FCP log and transfer but I am very happy with my workflow from compact flash on the Z7 and S270 cameras I have. I drop the files into clipwrap, make a cup of tea whilst they process into a folder, I then import the folder into FCP as a bin and bingo off we go editing. __________________ Over 15 minutes in Broadcast Film and TV production: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1044352/

October 21st, 2008, 10:17 AM	#10
Zach Love Major Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 944	I was having trouble w/ a Transcend 16GB 133x card missing clips on transfer all the time. I sent it back to newegg & got a replacement. In the mean time I upgraded to a Lexar FW800 card reader that was on sale at Bestbuy online, got my Sony 8GB rebate CF card in the mail & had no problems w/ it at all. So I bought a Transcend 8GB 300x card. Now I've got a couple misses w/ the Transcend cards, but on a second try it brings the clips in. I don't think I have had any trouble w/ the Sony card. (800FW also speeds things up nicely.) I'd say if you're having problems, see if you can exchange your CF card for a faster one.