Picture profiles, gamma detail, frame rates, etc. at DVinfo.net

Ian Campbell · May 15th, 2008, 08:03 PM

Now that many of us are out there using their new HVR-Z7U camcorders, I'm wondering what settings seem to work best for most folks. I'm just starting to play around with my cameras to determine what works best for me.

I tend to like the 30p mode best. The default settings seem to look good to me. I find the picture, in general, a bit soft so I've bumped my overall detail up to +2.

From what I understand from the Douglas Spotted Eagle Z7 training DVD, you can leave XY color on at all times, even if you don't have a monitor, etc. that takes advantage of it's expanded colour space. He says that by doing so you can future proff the original recordings, but your current NLE's and monitors will process the color just fine. I've done some tests and don't feel it looks as good as when leaving XY off. My monitor isn't XY complient.

So, I'd be curious to know if many have tinkered with many of the settings, gamma options, frame rates, detail etc. Sony has offered. I'd be curious to know also how others are setting up there cameras to shoot some great footage.

Ian

John Knight · May 16th, 2008, 04:30 PM

Hi everyone,

I've never had a camera with such tweakable picture profiles before.

I guess it's just a matter of experimentation but can anyone share some good recipes they've found work nicely for this camera?

John Knight · May 17th, 2008, 04:19 AM

Hi Ian,

Sorry, I posted an almost identical thread before reading this. Experimenting with profiles shortly... will post updates here.

Would you recommend the Vasst Training DVD???... I've heard it's pretty much a walkthrough of the manual... is it worth the money for intermediate/advanced users?

Bruce G. Cleveland · May 17th, 2008, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by John Knight

Hi Ian,

Sorry, I posted an almost identical thread before reading this. Experimenting with profiles shortly... will post updates here.

Would you recommend the Vasst Training DVD???... I've heard it's pretty much a walkthrough of the manual... is it worth the money for intermediate/advanced users?

John I have the training dvd, and although it is very good, I don't think it is worth the money, as it is just a walk through the manual. Nothing I did not get from the manual.

Bruce

Ian Campbell · May 17th, 2008, 09:24 AM

Hi, John . . .

I tried to PM you, but the DVInfo site says you are't set up to allow PM's. If you want to drop me a line at ian.campbell@digitalplayhouse.ca I can give you a bit of info. about the DVD -- plus let you know of other training material which I think might be better.

Ian

Steve Phillipps · May 17th, 2008, 09:28 AM

Strange you feel the need to up the detail level, tends to be over-vigorous in video cams and most people end up knocking it down a bit in camera and adjusting in post. Favourite on EX1 for example seems to be around -30 detail.
Steve

Chris Hurd · May 17th, 2008, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Knight

Sorry, I posted an almost identical thread before reading this.

Threads merged -- in the future if this happens, just use the report post function and one of us will merge the duplicate threads right away.

May 15th, 2008, 08:03 PM	#1
Ian Campbell Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toronto, ON Canada Posts: 141	Picture profiles, gamma detail, frame rates, etc. Now that many of us are out there using their new HVR-Z7U camcorders, I'm wondering what settings seem to work best for most folks. I'm just starting to play around with my cameras to determine what works best for me. I tend to like the 30p mode best. The default settings seem to look good to me. I find the picture, in general, a bit soft so I've bumped my overall detail up to +2. From what I understand from the Douglas Spotted Eagle Z7 training DVD, you can leave XY color on at all times, even if you don't have a monitor, etc. that takes advantage of it's expanded colour space. He says that by doing so you can future proff the original recordings, but your current NLE's and monitors will process the color just fine. I've done some tests and don't feel it looks as good as when leaving XY off. My monitor isn't XY complient. So, I'd be curious to know if many have tinkered with many of the settings, gamma options, frame rates, detail etc. Sony has offered. I'd be curious to know also how others are setting up there cameras to shoot some great footage. Ian

May 16th, 2008, 04:30 PM	#2
John Knight Major Player Join Date: May 2008 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 588	Picture Profile Recipes Hi everyone, I've never had a camera with such tweakable picture profiles before. I guess it's just a matter of experimentation but can anyone share some good recipes they've found work nicely for this camera?

May 17th, 2008, 04:19 AM	#3
John Knight Major Player Join Date: May 2008 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 588	Training DVD Hi Ian, Sorry, I posted an almost identical thread before reading this. Experimenting with profiles shortly... will post updates here. Would you recommend the Vasst Training DVD???... I've heard it's pretty much a walkthrough of the manual... is it worth the money for intermediate/advanced users?

May 17th, 2008, 09:24 AM	#5
Ian Campbell Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toronto, ON Canada Posts: 141	Vasst Dvd Hi, John . . . I tried to PM you, but the DVInfo site says you are't set up to allow PM's. If you want to drop me a line at ian.campbell@digitalplayhouse.ca I can give you a bit of info. about the DVD -- plus let you know of other training material which I think might be better. Ian

May 17th, 2008, 09:28 AM	#6
Steve Phillipps Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Wales Posts: 2,130	Strange you feel the need to up the detail level, tends to be over-vigorous in video cams and most people end up knocking it down a bit in camera and adjusting in post. Favourite on EX1 for example seems to be around -30 detail. Steve