Any one Recieved their Z7

Chad Dyle · February 18th, 2008, 05:56 PM

I was playing around with the camera in the French Quarter today. Here is a quick clip:

http://www.chaddyleproductions.com/2.../Cathedral.m2t
1080i

I've got a nice one of a ferry on the MS River, but its huge.

I'm still trying to figure out if I like the way you switch from auto focus to manual. You have to grab the ring and push or pull it. You can't do it without rocking the camera.
I didn't notice any focus issues at all in the sunlight.
The screen is high-res. The only problem is the glossy screen gets dirty fast and glares like a champ. I have a Hoodman that I used on my FX-1, but it didn't fit the Z7U as well.
My CF card just came in and I'm trying to figure out how it works. Can you record to CF only?

Chad Dyle · February 18th, 2008, 05:59 PM

Am I going to run into any problems if I mix the 30p from my Z7U with the 60i from my FX-1? The FX-1 is only used as a cut to camera for weddings.

Brian Rhodes · February 18th, 2008, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad Dyle

Am I going to run into any problems if I mix the 30p from my Z7U with the 60i from my FX-1? The FX-1 is only used as a cut to camera for weddings.

You will not run into any problems if you are using SONY Vegas
the Wedding Demo on my site was HVR-V1U 30P & HDR-FX1 60I Footage I rendered the time line out to 30p.

Eric Leonard · February 18th, 2008, 07:08 PM

Yep - you can record to CF only:

1. Select the iLink output - either HDV->DV on or off (downconversion), then choose squeeze or edge crop if downconversion is "on."

2. Then, underneath select external control only (EXT ONLY).

The camera won't roll the tape - just the card.

Playback from the card recorder is clumsy at best - it doesn't 'roll' cleanly like tape - it hangs at each clip break. Also, it's not frame-accurate with the tape (if you record together). There's a one to three second mismatch on startup or stop, but once the card/tape roll together - they're in TC and time sync.

One small annoyance: the camera disables its 'expanded focus' option if the camera is connected to an external recorder, such as the clip-on CF recorder.

I can't understand what one has to do with the other...but oh well.

Chad Dyle · February 18th, 2008, 08:40 PM

Eric,

Thanks for the help! Another question on the CF recorder. If I'm recording something to tape, can I selective activate the CF recorder? As an example, if I'm shooting a wedding to tape, I'd like to cap the bride walking in, vows and a few other scenes to the card. That way I can put something together very quickly. Is that possible or am I hoping to much?

Eric Leonard · February 18th, 2008, 08:48 PM

It appears you can - either in real-time or later, from the tape.

There's a button on the CF recorder that says "CAM LINK" - and if it's on - and the little icon above shows in the display, the CF rolls with the start and stop of the camera.

You can also disable the CAM LINK and hit record and stop manually. You can do this while the camera is live, or later when playing back tape. Kind of interesting.

The only thing I haven't tried is dubbing from the card back to the tape - but it appears it's possible.

Laurence Kingston · February 19th, 2008, 07:50 AM

Strange: all the 30p clips posted are flagged like 60i.

Jordan Oplinger · February 19th, 2008, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad Dyle

Brian,

Which 32 GB card did you order? I picked up (delivering today) the Tanscend 32GB card from Newegg.

did you test the card yet? I was a bit worried because the price is so low, but being 133x it should work...

Chad Dyle · February 19th, 2008, 04:36 PM

I'll have to check out the clips when I get home. The first 2 should have been 30p, the last one should be 60i. Did anyone else notice the stuttering effect when using 30p? I'm wondering if it could have been the lighting in my room. I've never noticed it on any of the other cameras.

Two new questions:

1) The camera came with a nice Sony DVCAM tape. Should I be using these or will the $3 Sony branded tapes I get from BH be enough?

2) Can anyone suggest a good bag? I'm using two Sony branded bags that allow me to attach the tripods to their tops. That makes running from a ceremony to a reception much easier. I purchased at Kata bag that I also really like, but it doesn't allow me to attach a tripod. I'd just like to know which brands/models you guys use/like.

Thanks again!

K.C. Luke · February 19th, 2008, 06:30 PM

CMOS on stuttering effect using still camera Flash!!! Not sure any 1 test it out?

Ryan Lester · February 20th, 2008, 12:01 AM

Your a bastard Chad............... I miss the French Quater terribly. Man. So Jelous.

If you ever need a secondary cameraman, let me know! :-)

Matt Davis · February 20th, 2008, 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad Dyle

I'd just like to know which brands/models you guys use/like

The Petrol 'Wings' bag has seen great service for the last couple of years with a pretty full Z1 kit. It has loops for a lightweight tripod or monopod, though I don't use it (Miller/Sachtler lives in separate shoulder slung bag).

May get another for the Z7 (or EX-1). Lens adaptors, radio mics, LANC controllers, bits and bobs all have their place, though a Matte Box or extra lens would be an issue.

Chad Dyle · February 20th, 2008, 06:14 PM

The card seemed to work fine. I shot some inside footage. It didn't look great because I really didn't setup the camera very well. But it did capture to the card very well. The 32 GB card said 140 minutes of recording time was available.

Laurence Kingston · February 20th, 2008, 09:30 PM

I just got mine this afternoon. It looks really nice. So far I'm not having any luck recording to CF card. How do you set it up? I have it assigned for "remote" and the empty tape icon went away, but it's still not recording. I'm sure I am missing something simple.

Edit: I can record fine to both the card and tape at once, so I know the card is compatible. I'm just not having any luck recording to just the card.

Edit: OK, I got it working. There was a setting on the card unit that was wrong.

Damon Lim · February 21st, 2008, 07:12 AM

is it possible to do a comparison in low light with VX2000-2100 / PD150-170?

really curious about the result.

February 18th, 2008, 05:56 PM	#31
Chad Dyle Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 410	I was playing around with the camera in the French Quarter today. Here is a quick clip: http://www.chaddyleproductions.com/2.../Cathedral.m2t 1080i I've got a nice one of a ferry on the MS River, but its huge. I'm still trying to figure out if I like the way you switch from auto focus to manual. You have to grab the ring and push or pull it. You can't do it without rocking the camera. I didn't notice any focus issues at all in the sunlight. The screen is high-res. The only problem is the glossy screen gets dirty fast and glares like a champ. I have a Hoodman that I used on my FX-1, but it didn't fit the Z7U as well. My CF card just came in and I'm trying to figure out how it works. Can you record to CF only? __________________ www.chaddyle.com www.chaddyleproductions.com

February 18th, 2008, 05:59 PM	#32
Chad Dyle Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 410	Mixing clips! Am I going to run into any problems if I mix the 30p from my Z7U with the 60i from my FX-1? The FX-1 is only used as a cut to camera for weddings. __________________ www.chaddyle.com www.chaddyleproductions.com

February 18th, 2008, 08:40 PM	#35
Chad Dyle Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 410	Eric, Thanks for the help! Another question on the CF recorder. If I'm recording something to tape, can I selective activate the CF recorder? As an example, if I'm shooting a wedding to tape, I'd like to cap the bride walking in, vows and a few other scenes to the card. That way I can put something together very quickly. Is that possible or am I hoping to much? __________________ www.chaddyle.com www.chaddyleproductions.com

February 19th, 2008, 04:36 PM	#39
Chad Dyle Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 410	I'll have to check out the clips when I get home. The first 2 should have been 30p, the last one should be 60i. Did anyone else notice the stuttering effect when using 30p? I'm wondering if it could have been the lighting in my room. I've never noticed it on any of the other cameras. Two new questions: 1) The camera came with a nice Sony DVCAM tape. Should I be using these or will the $3 Sony branded tapes I get from BH be enough? 2) Can anyone suggest a good bag? I'm using two Sony branded bags that allow me to attach the tripods to their tops. That makes running from a ceremony to a reception much easier. I purchased at Kata bag that I also really like, but it doesn't allow me to attach a tripod. I'd just like to know which brands/models you guys use/like. Thanks again! __________________ www.chaddyle.com www.chaddyleproductions.com

February 19th, 2008, 06:30 PM	#40
K.C. Luke Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 173	CMOS on stuttering effect using still camera Flash!!! Not sure any 1 test it out? __________________ Edit on Adobe Creative Suite Production Premium CS5 Mac 64BIT

February 18th, 2008, 07:08 PM	#34
Eric Leonard New Boot Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Burbank, California Posts: 11	Yep - you can record to CF only: 1. Select the iLink output - either HDV->DV on or off (downconversion), then choose squeeze or edge crop if downconversion is "on." 2. Then, underneath select external control only (EXT ONLY). The camera won't roll the tape - just the card. Playback from the card recorder is clumsy at best - it doesn't 'roll' cleanly like tape - it hangs at each clip break. Also, it's not frame-accurate with the tape (if you record together). There's a one to three second mismatch on startup or stop, but once the card/tape roll together - they're in TC and time sync. One small annoyance: the camera disables its 'expanded focus' option if the camera is connected to an external recorder, such as the clip-on CF recorder. I can't understand what one has to do with the other...but oh well.

February 18th, 2008, 08:48 PM	#36
Eric Leonard New Boot Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Burbank, California Posts: 11	It appears you can - either in real-time or later, from the tape. There's a button on the CF recorder that says "CAM LINK" - and if it's on - and the little icon above shows in the display, the CF rolls with the start and stop of the camera. You can also disable the CAM LINK and hit record and stop manually. You can do this while the camera is live, or later when playing back tape. Kind of interesting. The only thing I haven't tried is dubbing from the card back to the tape - but it appears it's possible.

February 19th, 2008, 07:50 AM	#37
Laurence Kingston Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Clermont, FL. Posts: 941	Strange: all the 30p clips posted are flagged like 60i.

February 20th, 2008, 12:01 AM	#41
Ryan Lester Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 48	Your a bastard Chad............... I miss the French Quater terribly. Man. So Jelous. If you ever need a secondary cameraman, let me know! :-)

February 20th, 2008, 06:14 PM	#43
Chad Dyle Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 410	The card seemed to work fine. I shot some inside footage. It didn't look great because I really didn't setup the camera very well. But it did capture to the card very well. The 32 GB card said 140 minutes of recording time was available. __________________ www.chaddyle.com www.chaddyleproductions.com

February 20th, 2008, 09:30 PM	#44
Laurence Kingston Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Clermont, FL. Posts: 941	I just got mine this afternoon. It looks really nice. So far I'm not having any luck recording to CF card. How do you set it up? I have it assigned for "remote" and the empty tape icon went away, but it's still not recording. I'm sure I am missing something simple. Edit: I can record fine to both the card and tape at once, so I know the card is compatible. I'm just not having any luck recording to just the card. Edit: OK, I got it working. There was a setting on the card unit that was wrong. Last edited by Laurence Kingston; February 21st, 2008 at 01:09 AM.

February 21st, 2008, 07:12 AM	#45
Damon Lim New Boot Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Malaysia Posts: 13	is it possible to do a comparison in low light with VX2000-2100 / PD150-170? really curious about the result.