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Leslie Wand · November 18th, 2010, 05:23 AM

due to time constraints my client went off with the tapes, while i have the cards we shot.

they'll dump to dvd with tc window and do a paper cut, send me the edl and i'll compile. no problem with any of this - it's how we generally work, HOWEVER:

due to circumstances (there was a lot of unexpected circumstances on this shoot), we were taping a lot of interviews, all of which went to tape + cf. however, after each interview we then did cutaways, pack shots, etc., but ONLY to tape (we only had 2 cf cards with us - so i made sure the interviews were on them).

i don't need to compile any of the shots other than from the interviews; so my question is:

will the cf tc match the tapes, considering there's probably large gaps between interviews?

if not, could i use time of day?

Rian Maelzer · November 18th, 2010, 10:04 AM

Yes, they should. The timecodes on the clips from the CF card match the timecode of the tape regardless of whether some material was only recorded to tape, but not to CF. It's the same when you change tapes. The card still duplicates the timecode from the new tape. It's a good thing too when you have to hand over the original tapes but are still required to provide a shotlist or timecodes later.

Greg Laves · November 18th, 2010, 01:21 PM

Hi Leslie, I don't know which edit system you use. I use Premier Pro and it doesn't seem to recognize the time code on the cards like when I want to do a time code dub from video off of the cards. Every clip starts over at 00:00:00:00. It recognizes the time code off of the tape, however. I might be doing something wrong but I haven't been able to figure it out so far.

Adam Gold · November 18th, 2010, 02:40 PM

Greg, the newest update of CS5 fixes this problem. It's not you, it was Premiere.

More details in the Premiere forum if you care.

Leslie Wand · November 18th, 2010, 04:49 PM

thanks gents,

had a moment of panic there!

usually have enough cards to cover all eventualities, but not for being told 'only 1 max 15 minute interview' - turned out the client had lined up 10 without informing the producer.

(i always travel with 10 tapes - couldn't shoot more in a day if i wanted to! and usually take 4 cards, but two still had material on them from the previous day)

again, thanks

leslie

Greg Laves · November 19th, 2010, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam Gold

Greg, the newest update of CS5 fixes this problem. It's not you, it was Premiere.

More details in the Premiere forum if you care.

Cool. I am getting ready to go to CS5.

Adam Gold · November 19th, 2010, 08:44 PM

Make sure you do the update to 5.0.2 right away after you install CS5. Especially if you have a supported CUDA card, you'll never look back.

Greg Laves · November 21st, 2010, 06:34 PM

Thanks Adam, I'll do that.

November 18th, 2010, 05:23 AM	#1
Leslie Wand Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: upper hunter, australia Posts: 1,410	cf and tape tc? due to time constraints my client went off with the tapes, while i have the cards we shot. they'll dump to dvd with tc window and do a paper cut, send me the edl and i'll compile. no problem with any of this - it's how we generally work, HOWEVER: due to circumstances (there was a lot of unexpected circumstances on this shoot), we were taping a lot of interviews, all of which went to tape + cf. however, after each interview we then did cutaways, pack shots, etc., but ONLY to tape (we only had 2 cf cards with us - so i made sure the interviews were on them). i don't need to compile any of the shots other than from the interviews; so my question is: will the cf tc match the tapes, considering there's probably large gaps between interviews? if not, could i use time of day?

November 18th, 2010, 10:04 AM	#2
Rian Maelzer New Boot Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Posts: 15	CF timecodes Yes, they should. The timecodes on the clips from the CF card match the timecode of the tape regardless of whether some material was only recorded to tape, but not to CF. It's the same when you change tapes. The card still duplicates the timecode from the new tape. It's a good thing too when you have to hand over the original tapes but are still required to provide a shotlist or timecodes later.

November 18th, 2010, 02:40 PM	#4
Adam Gold Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Woodinville, WA USA Posts: 3,467	Greg, the newest update of CS5 fixes this problem. It's not you, it was Premiere. More details in the Premiere forum if you care. __________________ "It can only be attributable to human error... This sort of thing has cropped up before, and it has always been due to human error."

November 19th, 2010, 08:44 PM	#7
Adam Gold Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Woodinville, WA USA Posts: 3,467	Make sure you do the update to 5.0.2 right away after you install CS5. Especially if you have a supported CUDA card, you'll never look back. __________________ "It can only be attributable to human error... This sort of thing has cropped up before, and it has always been due to human error."

November 18th, 2010, 01:21 PM	#3
Greg Laves Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Corpus Christi, TX Posts: 640	Hi Leslie, I don't know which edit system you use. I use Premier Pro and it doesn't seem to recognize the time code on the cards like when I want to do a time code dub from video off of the cards. Every clip starts over at 00:00:00:00. It recognizes the time code off of the tape, however. I might be doing something wrong but I haven't been able to figure it out so far.

November 18th, 2010, 04:49 PM	#5
Leslie Wand Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: upper hunter, australia Posts: 1,410	thanks gents, had a moment of panic there! usually have enough cards to cover all eventualities, but not for being told 'only 1 max 15 minute interview' - turned out the client had lined up 10 without informing the producer. (i always travel with 10 tapes - couldn't shoot more in a day if i wanted to! and usually take 4 cards, but two still had material on them from the previous day) again, thanks leslie

November 21st, 2010, 06:34 PM	#8
Greg Laves Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Corpus Christi, TX Posts: 640	Thanks Adam, I'll do that.