Z5, et al. handling enthusiastic speakers? at DVinfo.net

David Clark · January 26th, 2010, 11:11 AM

I've been using Canon XL series cameras for years and I'm seriously considering moving to the Z5U or the NxCam version (or EX1R for that matter) and I hate to bring up the "jello" issue again, but I haven't worked with any of these cmos cameras before.

From time to time, I film meetings with the speaker walking back and forth, side to side, never standing still. Of course the ccd's handle that fine. Should I expect a problem from 30 feet back or so, with a 25 ft side to side range for brisk paced person?

Thanks in advance.

Rob Morse · January 26th, 2010, 02:20 PM

It's been a non-issue for me. I have yet to see that effect and I do whip pans and everything else you can think of.

Dave Burckhard · January 26th, 2010, 03:08 PM

While I've seen the effect on the Z5, it's been under conditions whereupon the user had to try hard to make them noticeable. Typically it's on close in, whip pans at certain shutter speeds. In real life situations, I've not experienced jellocam with the Z5.

Dave

Leslie Wand · January 26th, 2010, 05:22 PM

well, from my v1 cmos's i've never had a problem - and i film racehorses running around in paddocks - all those fence posts.......

i don't deny the effect exists, it's just i've never come across it.

the only 'problem' that i'm aware and have seen for myself is that associated with camera flash - and frankly, big deal....

Mark Goodsell · January 26th, 2010, 06:23 PM

I like the idea of also considering the NX5U, Z7 or EX1R (doesn't it use expensive SxS cards?).

Jeff Harper · January 27th, 2010, 10:26 AM

Panning will not be an issue, even in progressive as long as you follow the action.

Zach Love · February 5th, 2010, 06:56 PM

I have a Z7 & rarely, if ever do I see CMOS skew. You really have to be doing whip-pans to see it.

So unless the speakers you'll be taping bounce back & forth faster than a tennis ball, you won't see any difference. (Except, of course, for the amazing HD picture over you SD XL cameras.)

January 26th, 2010, 11:11 AM	#1
David Clark Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Carrollton, Texas Posts: 145	Z5, et al. handling enthusiastic speakers? I've been using Canon XL series cameras for years and I'm seriously considering moving to the Z5U or the NxCam version (or EX1R for that matter) and I hate to bring up the "jello" issue again, but I haven't worked with any of these cmos cameras before. From time to time, I film meetings with the speaker walking back and forth, side to side, never standing still. Of course the ccd's handle that fine. Should I expect a problem from 30 feet back or so, with a 25 ft side to side range for brisk paced person? Thanks in advance.

January 26th, 2010, 06:23 PM	#5
Mark Goodsell Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: WI Posts: 367	I like the idea of also considering the NX5U, Z7 or EX1R (doesn't it use expensive SxS cards?). __________________ Mark Goodsell

February 5th, 2010, 06:56 PM	#7
Zach Love Major Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 944	I have a Z7 & rarely, if ever do I see CMOS skew. You really have to be doing whip-pans to see it. So unless the speakers you'll be taping bounce back & forth faster than a tennis ball, you won't see any difference. (Except, of course, for the amazing HD picture over you SD XL cameras.) __________________ Nothing says you're a serious video maker like S-VHS

January 26th, 2010, 02:20 PM	#2
Rob Morse Major Player Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 427	It's been a non-issue for me. I have yet to see that effect and I do whip pans and everything else you can think of.

January 26th, 2010, 03:08 PM	#3
Dave Burckhard Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 73	While I've seen the effect on the Z5, it's been under conditions whereupon the user had to try hard to make them noticeable. Typically it's on close in, whip pans at certain shutter speeds. In real life situations, I've not experienced jellocam with the Z5. Dave

January 26th, 2010, 05:22 PM	#4
Leslie Wand Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: upper hunter, australia Posts: 1,410	well, from my v1 cmos's i've never had a problem - and i film racehorses running around in paddocks - all those fence posts....... i don't deny the effect exists, it's just i've never come across it. the only 'problem' that i'm aware and have seen for myself is that associated with camera flash - and frankly, big deal....

January 27th, 2010, 10:26 AM	#6
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Panning will not be an issue, even in progressive as long as you follow the action.