VCL-HG0872 Wide Converter on Z5? at DVinfo.net

Derran Rootring · February 12th, 2009, 08:38 AM

Hi,

Has anyone tried to put the Sony VCL-HG0872 wide converter on the Z5? I believe it should fit on the camera, but I can't find anyone who has tried it yet.

I'm thinking of upgrading my Z1 to the Z5, but I need to know which accessories I should keep. I also have a Vocas Matte box that can be used with the wide converter on the Z1 and hopefully I can keep working with this configuration.

Thanks!

Rod Bourne · February 12th, 2009, 11:23 AM

I bought the subject converter from the Sony Outlet in Pottstown PA a two weeks ago in anticpation of ordering the FX-1000 from B&H.
I received it Tuesday and to my displease Sony has, at least on the FX-1000, switched to a bayonet mount. I was screwed.. (pun intended)..

I assume the Z-5 has the same issue.

So yesterday I went back to Potstown and traded the lens in for a tripod, ($69.00 870M) (and Softcase $69.00 (normally $269.00)) Threw in a 4gb card and walked out after paying $26.00 difference.

Sony had been selling the converter for $156.00..

Sometimes ya win and Sometimes you lose..

BTW.... Just love my camera!!!

Derran Rootring · February 12th, 2009, 03:59 PM

Thanks Rod, that is good to know!
Glad to hear you could trade the lens in for something else.

So I would probably have to buy the expensive VCL-HG0872x version with mattebox or VCL-HG0872k that will also fit the FX1000.

Jiri Balek · February 13th, 2009, 01:55 AM

Wideconverter Sony VCL-HG0872 does not work with HVR-Z5 because depth of thread in diferent from HDR-FX1 or HVR-Z1.
I don´t know why.

Rod Bourne · February 13th, 2009, 08:36 AM

Both the FX1000 and Z5 use Sony's new G Lens. That could be the reason.

Derran Rootring · February 13th, 2009, 08:49 AM

I just got word back from Vocas. It turns out, that I can't use the new wide converter from Sony on the camera with the mattebox in front. But it will fit without the wide converter and also when you use the Century WA converter.

I've used Century converters in the past and there was always to much barrel distortion visible in the picture, to my taste.
So at this point I should just have to wait and see if the camera's 29,5mm will be wide enough on it's own.

Tom Hardwick · February 13th, 2009, 09:07 AM

Just a minute guys, are we saying you can't fit Sony's 0872 wide-angle converter to the Z5? The Z5 has a 72 mm filter thread, the 0.8x converter has a 72 mm attachment thread - so what's not to fit?

Derran Rootring · February 13th, 2009, 09:30 AM

Perhaps the filter thread isn't deep enough for the converter. But I'm not sure.

Rod Bourne · February 13th, 2009, 12:00 PM

I can only speak from my experience with the FX1000 and the 872 (not the 872X)

Placing the 872 up to the glass , the threads in the 872 do not touch the sides of the screw threads inside of camera lens. Assuming the 872 threads were 72mm, I then begin to questions how I would mount any filters on the FX1000 Lens and What size they need to be.

Anyone have the answer to that? Anyone using filters?

Martin Duffy · February 14th, 2009, 03:28 AM

Hey I am after a 1.4/1.5 tele lens for my FX1000.

Seems Raynox only make a 1.8 but that means on a full wide I would get the black circle which I don't like.

Tom Hardwick · February 15th, 2009, 02:50 PM

I'm betting my every last pair of boots that if you fit a 1.4x or a 1.5x telephoto converter to your FX1000 you'll also get vignetting as you pull back to wide.

It's a telephoto converter - treat it as such. If you want to film at 40 mm then it's much better to take it off and film at 40 mm with the camera's zoom only.

tom.

February 12th, 2009, 08:38 AM	#1
Derran Rootring Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 204	VCL-HG0872 Wide Converter on Z5? Hi, Has anyone tried to put the Sony VCL-HG0872 wide converter on the Z5? I believe it should fit on the camera, but I can't find anyone who has tried it yet. I'm thinking of upgrading my Z1 to the Z5, but I need to know which accessories I should keep. I also have a Vocas Matte box that can be used with the wide converter on the Z1 and hopefully I can keep working with this configuration. Thanks!

February 12th, 2009, 11:23 AM	#2
Rod Bourne New Boot Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Mays Landing NJ USA Posts: 24	wide angle converter I bought the subject converter from the Sony Outlet in Pottstown PA a two weeks ago in anticpation of ordering the FX-1000 from B&H. I received it Tuesday and to my displease Sony has, at least on the FX-1000, switched to a bayonet mount. I was screwed.. (pun intended).. I assume the Z-5 has the same issue. So yesterday I went back to Potstown and traded the lens in for a tripod, ($69.00 870M) (and Softcase $69.00 (normally $269.00)) Threw in a 4gb card and walked out after paying $26.00 difference. Sony had been selling the converter for $156.00.. Sometimes ya win and Sometimes you lose.. BTW.... Just love my camera!!!

February 13th, 2009, 08:36 AM	#5
Rod Bourne New Boot Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Mays Landing NJ USA Posts: 24	Could be uses different Lens Both the FX1000 and Z5 use Sony's new G Lens. That could be the reason.

February 13th, 2009, 12:00 PM	#9
Rod Bourne New Boot Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Mays Landing NJ USA Posts: 24	FX1000 Mount I can only speak from my experience with the FX1000 and the 872 (not the 872X) Placing the 872 up to the glass , the threads in the 872 do not touch the sides of the screw threads inside of camera lens. Assuming the 872 threads were 72mm, I then begin to questions how I would mount any filters on the FX1000 Lens and What size they need to be. Anyone have the answer to that? Anyone using filters?

February 14th, 2009, 03:28 AM	#10
Martin Duffy Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 156	Need tele lens for FX1000 Hey I am after a 1.4/1.5 tele lens for my FX1000. Seems Raynox only make a 1.8 but that means on a full wide I would get the black circle which I don't like.

February 12th, 2009, 03:59 PM	#3
Derran Rootring Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 204	Thanks Rod, that is good to know! Glad to hear you could trade the lens in for something else. So I would probably have to buy the expensive VCL-HG0872x version with mattebox or VCL-HG0872k that will also fit the FX1000.

February 13th, 2009, 01:55 AM	#4
Jiri Balek Tourist Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: CZ Posts: 1	Wideconverter Sony VCL-HG0872 does not work with HVR-Z5 because depth of thread in diferent from HDR-FX1 or HVR-Z1. I don´t know why.

February 13th, 2009, 08:49 AM	#6
Derran Rootring Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 204	I just got word back from Vocas. It turns out, that I can't use the new wide converter from Sony on the camera with the mattebox in front. But it will fit without the wide converter and also when you use the Century WA converter. I've used Century converters in the past and there was always to much barrel distortion visible in the picture, to my taste. So at this point I should just have to wait and see if the camera's 29,5mm will be wide enough on it's own.

February 13th, 2009, 09:07 AM	#7
Tom Hardwick Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Billericay, England UK Posts: 4,711	Just a minute guys, are we saying you can't fit Sony's 0872 wide-angle converter to the Z5? The Z5 has a 72 mm filter thread, the 0.8x converter has a 72 mm attachment thread - so what's not to fit?

February 13th, 2009, 09:30 AM	#8
Derran Rootring Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 204	Perhaps the filter thread isn't deep enough for the converter. But I'm not sure.

February 15th, 2009, 02:50 PM	#11
Tom Hardwick Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Billericay, England UK Posts: 4,711	I'm betting my every last pair of boots that if you fit a 1.4x or a 1.5x telephoto converter to your FX1000 you'll also get vignetting as you pull back to wide. It's a telephoto converter - treat it as such. If you want to film at 40 mm then it's much better to take it off and film at 40 mm with the camera's zoom only. tom.