FX1000 has arrived - first impressions

Jeff Harper · November 25th, 2008, 11:17 AM

Ron, I looked for it in the menu, didn't see it listed. I wish I knew what it was...maybe under a different name?

Someone throw me a bone here, what is black stretch?

Martyn Hull · November 25th, 2008, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Harper

I disagree. Brooke and Jeff's video looks fantastic to me.

He was using a light most all of the time, clearly, but still, the colors are excellent and the contrast was very good. It can be picked apart, etc., but all in all that is close to stunning footage.

Yes i said it looks good but would not go to the fantastic stage watching on a pc monitor from vimeo,sr 12 and fx7 film exported and played on my pc look good as well also on my large plasma,the fx1000 does look like a great machine but i did say why its sadly probobly not for me.Who knows things might change in the future.

Adam Gold · November 25th, 2008, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Harper

Ron, I looked for it in the menu, didn't see it listed. I wish I knew what it was...maybe under a different name?

Someone throw me a bone here, what is black stretch?

Page 39 of your manual. You set it in a picture profile, and you can stretch (add more gradations) or compress (crush all dark tones to black). First time this appears in a non-pro cam for Sony. "Knee" does the same or similar for highlights, and this is on the FX1000 as well. Also detailed on page 39.

Ron Evans · November 25th, 2008, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam Gold

Page 39 of your manual. You set it in a picture profile, and you can stretch (add more gradations) or compress (crush all dark tones to black). First time this appears in a non-pro cam for Sony. "Knee" does the same or similar for highlights, and this is on the FX1000 as well. Also detailed on page 39.

You got there before me Adam. The value for me in theatre and I am sure for wedding guys, is that with stretch on the blacks/shadows( lowest levels) have more detail, and with knee set lower the whites don't overload. Something that consumer/prosumer cams have just not had compared to the true broadcast equipment. The new Panasonic HMC150 has this too to appeal to the event users. My SR11 seems to do a better job of this than the FX1 giving the impression of more latitude.

Ron Evans

Marius Boruch · November 30th, 2008, 07:02 PM

which XLR adapter would you recommend for FX1000;
is there any device allowing to connect HVRMRC1K to fx1000???

Ron Evans · November 30th, 2008, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Marius Boruch

which XLR adapter would you recommend for FX1000;
is there any device allowing to connect HVRMRC1K to fx1000???

This is what I use with my FX1 XLR Adapter XLR Pro Audio Adapter The XLR-BP XLR Audio Adapters For Camcorders XLR Adapter. As far as the HVRMRC1K I think an iLink cable is all you will need to connect to any DV or HDV camcorder.

Ron Evans

Tim Akin · November 30th, 2008, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Marius Boruch

which XLR adapter would you recommend for FX1000;
is there any device allowing to connect HVRMRC1K to fx1000???

These have been recommended for their low noise capabilities.

Camcorder XLR Audio Adapter/Preamp: Buy Direct and Save

Michael Liebergot · December 1st, 2008, 08:35 AM

I second, third, and fourth the Juicedlink boxes.
They are by far the quietest and best performing of the XLR adapters out there.

Marius Boruch · December 3rd, 2008, 12:17 PM

The only thing I need to know before I order the camera is LOW LIGHT compare to lets say VX2100; can somebody post some stills from these two, please?

Juan Hernandez · December 3rd, 2008, 03:35 PM

I'm told that it is way better than the vx 2100 in any way plus you have tha option of recording in different formats!

Noa Put · December 3rd, 2008, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Juan Hernandez

I'm told that it is way better than the vx 2100 in any way plus you have tha option of recording in different formats!

First I have to see this before I believe it, I have owned a vx2100 so if the person that told this to you can provide some comparing shots?

John Gayman · December 3rd, 2008, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Marius Boruch

The only thing I need to know before I order the camera is LOW LIGHT compare to lets say VX2100; can somebody post some stills from these two, please?

I too am currently using a VX2100 and my main point of interest is the autofocus ability of the FX1000. I shoot a lot of figure skating competitions and ice shows and the VX2100 AF is great for tracking the skaters among busy backgrounds. I've even used the VX2100 through the glass for hockey and it did great. It also handles the cold temperatures found in skating rinks.

I'm really hoping the FX1000 at least equals the VX2100 in these areas as I would really like to get one.

Jeff Harper · December 4th, 2008, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Juan Hernandez

I'm told that it is way better than the vx 2100 in any way plus you have tha option of recording in different formats!

Please read post #38 in this thread. My experience from shooting with the two side by side is the FX1000 is NOT better than the VX2100 in low light. The FX1000 is very good in low light but not AS good. I do not regret the purchase, because I believe for the money I got a lot of camera. Got my money's worth for sure.

I had said in a previous post that the FX1000 is way better, I was mistaken. I was wrong.

I wanted something better in low light than the FX1, and I certainly got it. It produces great images. I believe stunning images are possible in the right hands.

I say that if you watch the Vimeo video posted of Brooke that demo says more about the cam than words can.

In the dark it still looks dark, and it does not perform miracles. My expectations were completely unreasonable while waiting for the cam, but I emphasize I am very happy with the FX1000 anyway.

I still hate the menu scroll wheel, and still have lot to learn about the cam. I've only run it for one wedding and then I put it away and still haven't taken the time to learn it properly, but I know that when I get familiar with it it will be fantastic. I am still bogged down with editing but come January I will be shooting with it lots to learn it better.

K.C. Luke · December 4th, 2008, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Noa Put

First I have to see this before I believe it, I have owned a vx2100 so if the person that told this to you can provide some comparing shots?

I have that VX2100 as well more than many years and still strong.

Just take note on VX2100 user. VX2100 HAD CCD chip set. FX1000 CMOS CCD chip set. For those like to take events with flashing camera alround, than it may not good to buy.

Jeff Harper · December 4th, 2008, 04:42 AM

John, the auto focus is stonger on the VX2100 than the FX1000. In fact the auto-focus is downright frustrating at times on this cam. If you don't need widescreen and /or hi-definition footage you will be disappointed. If you do need widescreen or HD it is a great option if you can't afford an EX1 or some other more expensive cam.

December 1st, 2008, 08:35 AM	#68
Michael Liebergot Trustee Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,505	I second, third, and fourth the Juicedlink boxes. They are by far the quietest and best performing of the XLR adapters out there. __________________ Michael www.lvpvideo.com

November 25th, 2008, 11:17 AM	#61
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Ron, I looked for it in the menu, didn't see it listed. I wish I knew what it was...maybe under a different name? Someone throw me a bone here, what is black stretch?

November 30th, 2008, 07:02 PM	#65
Marius Boruch Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 421	which XLR adapter would you recommend for FX1000; is there any device allowing to connect HVRMRC1K to fx1000???

December 3rd, 2008, 12:17 PM	#69
Marius Boruch Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 421	The only thing I need to know before I order the camera is LOW LIGHT compare to lets say VX2100; can somebody post some stills from these two, please?

December 3rd, 2008, 03:35 PM	#70
Juan Hernandez New Boot Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Holladay Utah Posts: 22	I'm told that it is way better than the vx 2100 in any way plus you have tha option of recording in different formats!

December 4th, 2008, 04:42 AM	#75
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	John, the auto focus is stonger on the VX2100 than the FX1000. In fact the auto-focus is downright frustrating at times on this cam. If you don't need widescreen and /or hi-definition footage you will be disappointed. If you do need widescreen or HD it is a great option if you can't afford an EX1 or some other more expensive cam.