FX1000 has arrived - first impressions

Dirk Pel · December 9th, 2009, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prech Marton

Sorry, i dont have time to read the whole topic, just a quick question:
FX1000 LCD screen show the picture in overscan format or
show the full 1080 lines frame?
if not, how can you compose a shot, if you dont know what the viewer
will see on a full hd lcd tv that is underscan?

, 10%
Hi Prech,
This is very simple to test, use your editing system and see on your PC monitor what is realy in the picture. I have the Z5 and when the overscan is off the monitor shows 100%.
I believe this function in is not possible on the FX1000, the same was also on my FX1 10% lost. I don't understand why Sony and most of the others do this. This was perhaps in the time of CRT ok, but most of the flatpanels can give you full screen, 1920x1080 pixels.
Dirk PEL(NL)

Adam Gold · December 9th, 2009, 12:28 PM

Where are you finding anything about overscan on the Z5? I can't find anything about it in the menus or in the manual. There is, however, a safety marker that you can display, which outlines either 80% or 90% of the whole frame, depending on how you set it, which implies to me that the LCD is supposed to be showing you the entire frame, as if Allscan mode was on.

As far as I can tell, there is no Allscan mode on the Z5. There certainly isn't one on the FX1000.

Dirk Pel · December 9th, 2009, 01:14 PM

Adam,
You are right, the allscan was on the Z1. It is the safetymarker 80 or 90%. I controlled with Canopus Edius the display. What you can see is nearly 100%. With my FX1 there was at least 10% missing and give a lot of problems, mics or heads on the video that you didn't see on the camcorder.
Dirk PEL(NL)

Prech Marton · December 9th, 2009, 01:51 PM

Dirk,

Maybe i dont really understand something, but
I ask my question because i DONT HAVE an FX1000 right now!
So how do i make a test??

Adam Gold · December 9th, 2009, 03:14 PM

I don't know how one could test anything, in the absence of the thing being tested. I don't see how you could test one until you get your hands on one. Then it would obviously be a simple matter of shooting a test chart and comparing the display on the cam to the image captured on the tape, displayed in a PC.

My experience is the FX1000 and the Z5 both show pretty much the entire frame. Others have different experiences.

December 9th, 2009, 12:28 PM	#287
Adam Gold Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Woodinville, WA USA Posts: 3,467	Where are you finding anything about overscan on the Z5? I can't find anything about it in the menus or in the manual. There is, however, a safety marker that you can display, which outlines either 80% or 90% of the whole frame, depending on how you set it, which implies to me that the LCD is supposed to be showing you the entire frame, as if Allscan mode was on. As far as I can tell, there is no Allscan mode on the Z5. There certainly isn't one on the FX1000. __________________ "It can only be attributable to human error... This sort of thing has cropped up before, and it has always been due to human error."

December 9th, 2009, 01:51 PM	#289
Prech Marton Major Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: hungary Posts: 462	Dirk, Maybe i dont really understand something, but I ask my question because i DONT HAVE an FX1000 right now! So how do i make a test?? __________________ Relaxing clips with waterfalls and music, 3D photos, 3D videos: www.3d-video.hu

December 9th, 2009, 03:14 PM	#290
Adam Gold Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Woodinville, WA USA Posts: 3,467	I don't know how one could test anything, in the absence of the thing being tested. I don't see how you could test one until you get your hands on one. Then it would obviously be a simple matter of shooting a test chart and comparing the display on the cam to the image captured on the tape, displayed in a PC. My experience is the FX1000 and the Z5 both show pretty much the entire frame. Others have different experiences. __________________ "It can only be attributable to human error... This sort of thing has cropped up before, and it has always been due to human error."

December 9th, 2009, 01:14 PM	#288
Dirk Pel Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Karlsruhe Germany Posts: 42	Adam, You are right, the allscan was on the Z1. It is the safetymarker 80 or 90%. I controlled with Canopus Edius the display. What you can see is nearly 100%. With my FX1 there was at least 10% missing and give a lot of problems, mics or heads on the video that you didn't see on the camcorder. Dirk PEL(NL)