Regarding uncompressed capture from Z1 to FCP at DVinfo.net

Shaughan Flynn · April 27th, 2007, 11:43 AM

My wife recently decided it was time to upgrade the Mac so she ordered an 8 core Mac pro. After the arrival of this beast I decided to look into getting HD off of the Z1 and bypassing the HDV that it outputs from FW.

At the recent LAFCPUG meeting, Black Magic demoed their Intensity Pro card:

http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/

So, in theory, I should be able to pop that into the Mac, attach the Z1 via component output and capture uncompressed, right?

If that is the case, what would I tell FCP it is capturing from? Normally I use the Z1 preset in the capture dialog for FCP to do this. Obviously whatever I choose will have to be sans device control.

James Huenergardt · April 30th, 2007, 09:24 AM

Well, sort of.

You would need a Component to HDMI converter as the Intensity card captures HDMI, not Component.

However, there are a few Component to HDMI converters on the market, and I'm going to eventually look into them and see if they work as I'm a Z1U owner as well.

Let me know if you find something that works.

Jim

Geoff Dills · April 30th, 2007, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Huenergardt

Well, sort of.

You would need a Component to HDMI converter as the Intensity card captures HDMI, not Component.

It appears the Pro card DOES capture analog component so it should work. From their website: "HDMI and Analog Component switches between high definition and standard definition."

Giroud Francois · April 30th, 2007, 12:13 PM

but again, if you are just playing back from tape, there is absolutely no interest of doing that, firewire is the same.

Shaughan Flynn · May 1st, 2007, 10:33 AM

Understood - the capture would be live off of the camera. I understand that if I am playing back off of tape, the component output at that point is HDV and not uncompressed (same for FW obviously).

Giroud Francois · May 1st, 2007, 11:37 AM

since moving such a beast (the mac 8 core) to the field would be a bit adventurous, i would recommend to use a simple pc (a small cheap barebone like the Shuttle SD39P2) with just the intensity pro and some big disk (320 gig should be ok) inside.
you can build such machine for about 1200$.
Since Cineform will be available on PC and Mac, you can even use this to share the files between both OS.

Shaughan Flynn · May 1st, 2007, 01:12 PM

Well this capture would occur only in my studio with the camera locked down on sticks. So my only downside there is making sure the resident klutzes do not trip over the umbilical.

April 27th, 2007, 11:43 AM	#1
Shaughan Flynn Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 272	Regarding uncompressed capture from Z1 to FCP My wife recently decided it was time to upgrade the Mac so she ordered an 8 core Mac pro. After the arrival of this beast I decided to look into getting HD off of the Z1 and bypassing the HDV that it outputs from FW. At the recent LAFCPUG meeting, Black Magic demoed their Intensity Pro card: http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/ So, in theory, I should be able to pop that into the Mac, attach the Z1 via component output and capture uncompressed, right? If that is the case, what would I tell FCP it is capturing from? Normally I use the Z1 preset in the capture dialog for FCP to do this. Obviously whatever I choose will have to be sans device control. __________________ B-Scene Films

May 1st, 2007, 10:33 AM	#5
Shaughan Flynn Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 272	Understood - the capture would be live off of the camera. I understand that if I am playing back off of tape, the component output at that point is HDV and not uncompressed (same for FW obviously). __________________ B-Scene Films

May 1st, 2007, 01:12 PM	#7
Shaughan Flynn Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 272	Well this capture would occur only in my studio with the camera locked down on sticks. So my only downside there is making sure the resident klutzes do not trip over the umbilical. __________________ B-Scene Films

April 30th, 2007, 09:24 AM	#2
James Huenergardt Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Chehalis, WA Posts: 513	Well, sort of. You would need a Component to HDMI converter as the Intensity card captures HDMI, not Component. However, there are a few Component to HDMI converters on the market, and I'm going to eventually look into them and see if they work as I'm a Z1U owner as well. Let me know if you find something that works. Jim

April 30th, 2007, 12:13 PM	#4
Giroud Francois Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: switzerland Posts: 2,133	but again, if you are just playing back from tape, there is absolutely no interest of doing that, firewire is the same.

May 1st, 2007, 11:37 AM	#6
Giroud Francois Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: switzerland Posts: 2,133	since moving such a beast (the mac 8 core) to the field would be a bit adventurous, i would recommend to use a simple pc (a small cheap barebone like the Shuttle SD39P2) with just the intensity pro and some big disk (320 gig should be ok) inside. you can build such machine for about 1200$. Since Cineform will be available on PC and Mac, you can even use this to share the files between both OS.