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Joe Riggs · November 29th, 2006, 06:47 AM

What is the deal with the Z1 and its inability to be recognized by computers?

I have used 2 different Z1 cameras and both have a hard time being recognized by my computer via firewire. Once in a great while the cameras do get recognized but the inconsistency in ridiculous.

I browsed through similar topics and I have Win XP SP2, I have it set to VCR HDV, and downconvert off, restarting my CPU doesn’t work. I even tried downconvert on and other combinations but none seem to work consistently.

I would appreciate any advice on this issue?

Thank You

Steven Davis · November 29th, 2006, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Riggs

What is the deal with the Z1 and its inability to be recognized by computers?

I have used 2 different Z1 cameras and both have a hard time being recognized by my computer via firewire. Once in a great while the cameras do get recognized but the inconsistency in ridiculous.

I browsed through similar topics and I have Win XP SP2, I have it set to VCR HDV, and downconvert off, restarting my CPU doesn’t work. I even tried downconvert on and other combinations but none seem to work consistently.

I would appreciate any advice on this issue?

Thank You

Have you tried a different camera/cable/firewire port? The only reason I ask is, the camera is more or less just a set of electrical charges. I have this freaky thing with my firewire card that if I am capturing to the card, then my monitor (also on the same firewire card) will not show up. It's weird, but it's a computer issue. Try a different computer even. I doubt it's the camera. Just me .012

Joe Riggs · November 29th, 2006, 08:29 AM

I'll give it a go on another CPU. I just a little surprised because I have never had a problem like this with a DV cam.

Boyd Ostroff · November 29th, 2006, 09:32 AM

I've never seen any Z1 issues on the Mac platform. I suspect this has more to do with Windows drivers and/or your NLE software. The fact that two different cameras gave the same results with your computer would seem to reinforce that theory...

Douglas Spotted Eagle · November 29th, 2006, 10:27 AM

Never seen an issue on the PC platform or Mac platform, either one. I'd look at cable or NLE issues as well.

Robert Young · November 29th, 2006, 07:58 PM

With my WinXP SP2 system, the only times I've had that issue, I've found one of the settings to be off:
For HDV-
Camera has to be set for HDV firewire output
Need to have an HDV project open in the NLE (Premiere Pro in my case)
Need to have the appropriate Device Control setting in the NLE
For DV
Camera set for HDV>DV firewire output
DV Project in NLE
Appropriate Device Control setting

I switch back and forth between HDV and DV projects and occasionally get the "no device online" message when I open the capture window. It is always been due to a left over setting in the wrong format. I have a Z1, a Sony A1U, and the M15U deck. None required any driver installation or other special attention, and all have worked reliably with my system from day one.
Hope this helps.

Ervin Farkas · November 30th, 2006, 08:43 AM

It happened to me when I first connected the Z1U to my desktop (older AMD PC) running XP with no service packs whatsoever and PPRO 1.5. Had to google a little utility that took care of it.

My Sony Vaio Intel P4 laptop (XP with service packs up to date and PPRO 2.0) took it first time I connected it, no questions asked.

November 29th, 2006, 06:47 AM	#1
Joe Riggs Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 189	Connecting Z1... What is the deal with the Z1 and its inability to be recognized by computers? I have used 2 different Z1 cameras and both have a hard time being recognized by my computer via firewire. Once in a great while the cameras do get recognized but the inconsistency in ridiculous. I browsed through similar topics and I have Win XP SP2, I have it set to VCR HDV, and downconvert off, restarting my CPU doesn’t work. I even tried downconvert on and other combinations but none seem to work consistently. I would appreciate any advice on this issue? Thank You

November 29th, 2006, 10:27 AM	#5
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	Never seen an issue on the PC platform or Mac platform, either one. I'd look at cable or NLE issues as well. __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

November 30th, 2006, 08:43 AM	#7
Ervin Farkas Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta/USA Posts: 2,515	It happened to me when I first connected the Z1U to my desktop (older AMD PC) running XP with no service packs whatsoever and PPRO 1.5. Had to google a little utility that took care of it. My Sony Vaio Intel P4 laptop (XP with service packs up to date and PPRO 2.0) took it first time I connected it, no questions asked. __________________ Ervin Farkas www.AtlantaLegalVideo.com

November 29th, 2006, 08:29 AM	#3
Joe Riggs Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 189	I'll give it a go on another CPU. I just a little surprised because I have never had a problem like this with a DV cam.

November 29th, 2006, 09:32 AM	#4
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	I've never seen any Z1 issues on the Mac platform. I suspect this has more to do with Windows drivers and/or your NLE software. The fact that two different cameras gave the same results with your computer would seem to reinforce that theory...

November 29th, 2006, 07:58 PM	#6
Robert Young Trustee Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Coronado Island Posts: 1,472	With my WinXP SP2 system, the only times I've had that issue, I've found one of the settings to be off: For HDV- Camera has to be set for HDV firewire output Need to have an HDV project open in the NLE (Premiere Pro in my case) Need to have the appropriate Device Control setting in the NLE For DV Camera set for HDV>DV firewire output DV Project in NLE Appropriate Device Control setting I switch back and forth between HDV and DV projects and occasionally get the "no device online" message when I open the capture window. It is always been due to a left over setting in the wrong format. I have a Z1, a Sony A1U, and the M15U deck. None required any driver installation or other special attention, and all have worked reliably with my system from day one. Hope this helps.