Compressed WMV Z1 footage at DVinfo.net

Mark Utley · March 22nd, 2006, 02:28 AM

I was playing around with codecs in Premiere Pro 1.5. This video was shot in HDV, downconverted to SD, de-interlaced, slightly colour-corrected then exported into a Windows Media 8 720x480 1024k 2-pass wmv file (that's probably the most ridiculous sentence I've ever written).

How watchable do you think the clip is? Being 2.5 minutes and 20MB, that's about 8MB/minute. I tend to think of bitrates as values, so is there a better codec I can "spend" at?

http://www.mumps.ca/video/mumps/vert...compressed.wmv

(Mac users, I think you can use Winamp)

John Steele · March 22nd, 2006, 04:39 AM

Hi Mark,

I think the footage looks excellent, a good size to quality ratio, I've found the wmv codec to be very good, I won't comment on the music :D

John.

Leo Pepingco · March 22nd, 2006, 06:33 AM

The video is great - I can only imagine what it looks like in HD!!!!

As for the music.... well, I can say I dont like it (so thats my opinion, and you cant touch that) Everything else is fine. Seems like the environment was pretty sweet. Good gig I bet?

Mark Utley · March 22nd, 2006, 12:36 PM

Thanks, guys. It's too bad WMV isn't very sharp. That's the only thing I like about Quicktime but QT requires such big files to get that way. Maybe I'll try WM9.

Leo, the environment is decent. I've shot there probably 60 times over the past year and I love the place, but the lighting just isn't very good. It was okay for that band's set because they only have two members, but when you get five or six guys on the stage who all need to be evenly lit from head to waist, it just doesn't work out.

And if by "good gig" you mean anything related to pay, unfortunately that's a no, haha. I do lots of free work for bands. Most of the paid work I do now comes from the exposure I've received for doing that free work.

Thanks again for your feedback!

Douglas Villalba · March 22nd, 2006, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Utley

I was playing around with codecs in Premiere Pro 1.5. This video was shot in HDV, downconverted to SD, de-interlaced, slightly colour-corrected then exported into a Windows Media 8 720x480 1024k 2-pass wmv file (that's probably the most ridiculous sentence I've ever written).

How watchable do you think the clip is? Being 2.5 minutes and 20MB, that's about 8MB/minute. I tend to think of bitrates as values, so is there a better codec I can "spend" at?

http://www.mumps.ca/video/mumps/vert...compressed.wmv

(Mac users, I think you can use Winamp)

I can't open it with Macs

Daniel Nunez · March 23rd, 2006, 02:07 PM

I think your stuff looks good. Although I couldn't understand the singer. But, the color correction looks good. I'd love to see the footage before color correction. So are they kind of like a "White Stripes" kinda band? lol anyways... nice job.

Tomas Chinchilla · March 23rd, 2006, 02:22 PM

Do a search in Google for "Flip4Mac"

Mark Utley · March 23rd, 2006, 07:40 PM

Have any Mac users tried Winamp? I always thought that works, but maybe not.

Daniel, I'm not going to lie, I know next to nothing about colour correction. I basically just made little adjustments until I thought it looked okay. In fact, I didn't even compare the finished one to the original footage to tell if I actually improved the image at all. I'll see about uploading the original if I have time tonight.

The band is from Edmonton. I've taped them three or four times and I'm good friends with them. You should check out their recorded stuff!

http://www.verticalstruts.com

March 22nd, 2006, 02:28 AM	#1
Mark Utley Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Posts: 479	Compressed WMV Z1 footage I was playing around with codecs in Premiere Pro 1.5. This video was shot in HDV, downconverted to SD, de-interlaced, slightly colour-corrected then exported into a Windows Media 8 720x480 1024k 2-pass wmv file (that's probably the most ridiculous sentence I've ever written). How watchable do you think the clip is? Being 2.5 minutes and 20MB, that's about 8MB/minute. I tend to think of bitrates as values, so is there a better codec I can "spend" at? http://www.mumps.ca/video/mumps/vert...compressed.wmv (Mac users, I think you can use Winamp) __________________ Mark Utley

March 22nd, 2006, 12:36 PM	#4
Mark Utley Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Posts: 479	Thanks, guys. It's too bad WMV isn't very sharp. That's the only thing I like about Quicktime but QT requires such big files to get that way. Maybe I'll try WM9. Leo, the environment is decent. I've shot there probably 60 times over the past year and I love the place, but the lighting just isn't very good. It was okay for that band's set because they only have two members, but when you get five or six guys on the stage who all need to be evenly lit from head to waist, it just doesn't work out. And if by "good gig" you mean anything related to pay, unfortunately that's a no, haha. I do lots of free work for bands. Most of the paid work I do now comes from the exposure I've received for doing that free work. Thanks again for your feedback! __________________ Mark Utley

March 23rd, 2006, 02:07 PM	#6
Daniel Nunez New Boot Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Chesapeake, VA Posts: 16	I think your stuff looks good. Although I couldn't understand the singer. But, the color correction looks good. I'd love to see the footage before color correction. So are they kind of like a "White Stripes" kinda band? lol anyways... nice job. __________________ www.rocksteadycreations.com "we don't capture magic... we create it"

March 23rd, 2006, 02:22 PM	#7
Tomas Chinchilla Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 212 Images: 8	WMV and MACs Do a search in Google for "Flip4Mac"

March 23rd, 2006, 07:40 PM	#8
Mark Utley Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Posts: 479	Have any Mac users tried Winamp? I always thought that works, but maybe not. Daniel, I'm not going to lie, I know next to nothing about colour correction. I basically just made little adjustments until I thought it looked okay. In fact, I didn't even compare the finished one to the original footage to tell if I actually improved the image at all. I'll see about uploading the original if I have time tonight. The band is from Edmonton. I've taped them three or four times and I'm good friends with them. You should check out their recorded stuff! http://www.verticalstruts.com __________________ Mark Utley

March 22nd, 2006, 04:39 AM	#2
John Steele Major Player Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Scotland, UK Posts: 216	Hi Mark, I think the footage looks excellent, a good size to quality ratio, I've found the wmv codec to be very good, I won't comment on the music :D John.

March 22nd, 2006, 06:33 AM	#3
Leo Pepingco Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 275	The video is great - I can only imagine what it looks like in HD!!!! As for the music.... well, I can say I dont like it (so thats my opinion, and you cant touch that) Everything else is fine. Seems like the environment was pretty sweet. Good gig I bet?