UK: Wierd PAL/NTSC stuff with FX1- ideas!? at DVinfo.net

Stuart Boreham · February 20th, 2006, 03:41 PM

Hi all,

Just pruchased a Fx1 today- very happy so far. but there is a slight problem that seems a bit wierd to me.

1. Filmed in HDV.
2. Downsampled to DV when logging to the edition 5 timeline
3. When playing back from the timeline to my monitor using the FX1 as a s-video breakout box it displays 'ntsc' in the viewfinder and produces mickey mouse sounding garbage

?

Is it to do with the downsampling in camera upsampling when playing back? Is it because i have a ntsc camera? (I think not as I wrote a disk and it plays fine) When I replaced the FX1 with my Xm2 and played back through that, all was fine.

Is there anything to worry about here or just an irritation?

Stuart

Robert M Wright · February 20th, 2006, 03:55 PM

Sounds like you have an NTSC FX1, it is outputting an NTSC signal, your disk player is outputting a PAL signal and so is your XM2.

Sounds like you need to exchange your FX1 for an FX1E.

Stuart Boreham · February 21st, 2006, 01:05 PM

Solved, if anyone is interested. Its is a FX1e.

The problem goes away if you pull the dv plug out and then shove it right back in again.

Technology, eh?

S

Paul Wags · February 22nd, 2006, 09:03 AM

Stuart

Mine does the same, Im over here in Australia, I have been editing HDV but have just started to do DV and yes you have to turn the camera off and restart or pull the plug...It must be a bug. I can also play 4.3 minDV tapes as 16.9 displayed sometimes...stranged.

Im using it with Premiere Pro and firewire.

Paul

Paul Wags · February 24th, 2006, 06:00 AM

Hey I just got my PAL A1 and it does the exact same thing as my PAL FX1?

Must be a bug. I can turn the camera off, pull the firewire plug or shut down Prem Pro and restart to sort it out.

Paul

Leo Pepingco · February 24th, 2006, 06:10 AM

What the cameras are doing is just a signal reset. The best way to do it is to turn off the cam, then turn it on again.

Its like using a floppy disk in the older computers, where you can only access the disk in DOS, or when thecomputer boots.

So imagine pulling the plug and reinserting it is like the computer going to DOS because windows 95 doesnt recognise it. And turning the cam off and on again is like inserting the disk before you start.

Its not a bug, but just a parameter that Sony probably left in the cam to save money, and in the end, save you a few hundred in the RRP of the cam.

February 20th, 2006, 03:41 PM	#1
Stuart Boreham Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 56	UK: Wierd PAL/NTSC stuff with FX1- ideas!? Hi all, Just pruchased a Fx1 today- very happy so far. but there is a slight problem that seems a bit wierd to me. 1. Filmed in HDV. 2. Downsampled to DV when logging to the edition 5 timeline 3. When playing back from the timeline to my monitor using the FX1 as a s-video breakout box it displays 'ntsc' in the viewfinder and produces mickey mouse sounding garbage ? Is it to do with the downsampling in camera upsampling when playing back? Is it because i have a ntsc camera? (I think not as I wrote a disk and it plays fine) When I replaced the FX1 with my Xm2 and played back through that, all was fine. Is there anything to worry about here or just an irritation? Stuart

February 20th, 2006, 03:55 PM	#2
Robert M Wright Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minnesota (USA) Posts: 2,171	Sounds like you have an NTSC FX1, it is outputting an NTSC signal, your disk player is outputting a PAL signal and so is your XM2. Sounds like you need to exchange your FX1 for an FX1E.

February 21st, 2006, 01:05 PM	#3
Stuart Boreham Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 56	Solved, if anyone is interested. Its is a FX1e. The problem goes away if you pull the dv plug out and then shove it right back in again. Technology, eh? S

February 22nd, 2006, 09:03 AM	#4
Paul Wags Ruler of the DownUnder UnderWorld Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Cairns- Queensland - Australia Posts: 248	Stuart Mine does the same, Im over here in Australia, I have been editing HDV but have just started to do DV and yes you have to turn the camera off and restart or pull the plug...It must be a bug. I can also play 4.3 minDV tapes as 16.9 displayed sometimes...stranged. Im using it with Premiere Pro and firewire. Paul

February 24th, 2006, 06:00 AM	#5
Paul Wags Ruler of the DownUnder UnderWorld Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Cairns- Queensland - Australia Posts: 248	Hey I just got my PAL A1 and it does the exact same thing as my PAL FX1? Must be a bug. I can turn the camera off, pull the firewire plug or shut down Prem Pro and restart to sort it out. Paul

February 24th, 2006, 06:10 AM	#6
Leo Pepingco Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 275	What the cameras are doing is just a signal reset. The best way to do it is to turn off the cam, then turn it on again. Its like using a floppy disk in the older computers, where you can only access the disk in DOS, or when thecomputer boots. So imagine pulling the plug and reinserting it is like the computer going to DOS because windows 95 doesnt recognise it. And turning the cam off and on again is like inserting the disk before you start. Its not a bug, but just a parameter that Sony probably left in the cam to save money, and in the end, save you a few hundred in the RRP of the cam.