Another Z1 MUSIC video in Mexico for a Russian Female vocal hip hop group at DVinfo.net

Carlos Yasik · February 4th, 2006, 05:42 PM

http://www.estamosenvideo.com/movies/sweet1.mov

Hope to hear from you all again, this express cut is not the real and final music video, but i would like to know what you think...

NOTE: THE LYPSINC looks unsync, but in a NTSC monitor looks great.

It was shot with cineframe 24

Thank u
Carlos Yasik

(LAST Post about another video shot with this camera....
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=54961 )

Ron German · February 5th, 2006, 07:04 AM

Hi Carlos
When watching the (good) video "Basse", I wonder how was your workflow with 25p to get a (I gess) ntsc colour edited final product?
What was your master for that video, DV ntsc, Digital Betacam?
How "filmic" was the edited master?
My questions are relevant because I`m considering to purchase the Z1U instead of HVX200, but my concern is how dificult is to get filmlike stuff from 25p or deinterlaced 50i, both converted to 24p and rendered to ntsc DV, or any of HD format. I edit with Vegas.
Best
Ron

Carlos Yasik · February 8th, 2006, 09:17 PM

Well, I shot at 25, then i edited all in a 25p PAL time line, finally in affter effects made the color corrections, and of course, i dropped my PAL 25 final version from Final Cut to the new composition as NTSC. That´s mainly what i did.

Well i can't tell you right now because I haven't work with that camera (HVX200) but when you work with 25p you get a really filmmic appeareance.. Why? because real film is 24 fps. Then, when you converted to NTSC, you can eaither convert your 25p PAL direct to NTSC, or you can export it and make a change in the FPS to 24p, then you add the cine pulldown.

By the way, all that things you asked, i also asked my self before, but I still have my doubts, one thing that I can say is that 25p on HVR-Z1 can do a very good filmmic appeareance, and you keep working with High Definition material.

Evan C. King · February 9th, 2006, 04:45 AM

In the post above me you mention using the cineframe 25 on the camera but your oringal post you say you used cineframe 24? People say that cineframe 24 looks terrible but that looks fine! Are you sure this was the cineframe 24 mode on the z1u?

Rafael Lopes · February 9th, 2006, 05:48 AM

The link is broken for me (proxyerror.nsf) :(

Leo Pepingco · February 9th, 2006, 07:13 AM

Wow... I'm impressed... Considering that it is a file uploaded for the Internet. I wonder what the actual footage looks without all those artifacts that all Net vids come with.

I do Have one question... How on earth do you create those Green Screen effects.... The best I've done was shoot a lava lamp in closeup etc... But I've never known where or how you get those digitally created effects...

I'd love to know how its done...

K. Forman · February 9th, 2006, 07:14 AM

I'm having a Spice Girls flashback! LOL_ Aside from being blown out in several places, it wasn't bad. I am kind of confused though, because they are Russian, singing in Spanish?

Carlos Yasik · February 9th, 2006, 05:55 PM

Lol... First I will answer this...
They are russians, but they are starting their carreer in Mexico, that video was shot in Spanish and Russian. But i have only publish a "previous Cut" of all the images, I will post how I am going with that video...

Well the CF 25 was the Basse video that can be found on the other trhead, the russian girls was entirely shot on CINEFRAME 24 NTSC, so you can actually shoot as CF24 or Raw witout any cinema effect, but this time i decide for Cinemframe 24.

The link thing is beacause I think you may not have the quicktime plug in and then windows media tries to open it. May be you got to check your internet plug ins.

Carlos Yasik · February 9th, 2006, 05:57 PM

I have been working with all that green screen, comps in after effects, and i finally get the result i wanted!!

You can see a spot of the actual final video, hope you like it:

(it may take time to download because it is a big size but compressed quicktime video) 7.5 mb aproximately

www.estamosenvideo.com/movies/sweet_intro.mov

Leo Pepingco · February 9th, 2006, 08:31 PM

This is cool... much better than the last one you posted.

You used FCP right? I cant imagine any other Editing Program that can do this. (Maybe I havent come across it yet)

Carlos Yasik · February 9th, 2006, 08:56 PM

Sorry Leo, I didn't anser your question, those effects are part of a collection, like art beats, and all others, you can buy them online.

But sometimes, i do the.. like for example, the backgrounds in the last posted video.

Daniel Nunez · March 6th, 2006, 10:06 AM

Me gusto el video! Adonde lo hacieron? En Mexico? Me gusto los partes adentro con el hombre. Este video es muscho mas mejor que el otro de la grupacion Base. Me gusta tus obras. Sigue en eso...

February 4th, 2006, 05:42 PM	#1
Carlos Yasik New Boot Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Guadalajara, Jalisco, México. Posts: 19	Another Z1 MUSIC video in Mexico for a Russian Female vocal hip hop group http://www.estamosenvideo.com/movies/sweet1.mov Hope to hear from you all again, this express cut is not the real and final music video, but i would like to know what you think... NOTE: THE LYPSINC looks unsync, but in a NTSC monitor looks great. It was shot with cineframe 24 Thank u Carlos Yasik (LAST Post about another video shot with this camera.... http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=54961 ) __________________ J. Carlos Orozco "Yasik" Director http://estamosenvideo.com http://estamosenvideo.com/yasik

February 8th, 2006, 09:17 PM	#3
Carlos Yasik New Boot Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Guadalajara, Jalisco, México. Posts: 19	Well, I shot at 25, then i edited all in a 25p PAL time line, finally in affter effects made the color corrections, and of course, i dropped my PAL 25 final version from Final Cut to the new composition as NTSC. That´s mainly what i did. Well i can't tell you right now because I haven't work with that camera (HVX200) but when you work with 25p you get a really filmmic appeareance.. Why? because real film is 24 fps. Then, when you converted to NTSC, you can eaither convert your 25p PAL direct to NTSC, or you can export it and make a change in the FPS to 24p, then you add the cine pulldown. By the way, all that things you asked, i also asked my self before, but I still have my doubts, one thing that I can say is that 25p on HVR-Z1 can do a very good filmmic appeareance, and you keep working with High Definition material. __________________ J. Carlos Orozco "Yasik" Director http://estamosenvideo.com http://estamosenvideo.com/yasik

February 9th, 2006, 07:14 AM	#7
K. Forman Capt. Quirk Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Middle of the woods in Georgia Posts: 3,596	I'm having a Spice Girls flashback! LOL_ Aside from being blown out in several places, it wasn't bad. I am kind of confused though, because they are Russian, singing in Spanish? __________________ www.SmokeWagonLeather.us

February 9th, 2006, 05:55 PM	#8
Carlos Yasik New Boot Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Guadalajara, Jalisco, México. Posts: 19	Lol... First I will answer this... They are russians, but they are starting their carreer in Mexico, that video was shot in Spanish and Russian. But i have only publish a "previous Cut" of all the images, I will post how I am going with that video... Well the CF 25 was the Basse video that can be found on the other trhead, the russian girls was entirely shot on CINEFRAME 24 NTSC, so you can actually shoot as CF24 or Raw witout any cinema effect, but this time i decide for Cinemframe 24. The link thing is beacause I think you may not have the quicktime plug in and then windows media tries to open it. May be you got to check your internet plug ins. __________________ J. Carlos Orozco "Yasik" Director http://estamosenvideo.com http://estamosenvideo.com/yasik

February 9th, 2006, 05:57 PM	#9
Carlos Yasik New Boot Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Guadalajara, Jalisco, México. Posts: 19	I have the first composition pre-video!!! I have been working with all that green screen, comps in after effects, and i finally get the result i wanted!! You can see a spot of the actual final video, hope you like it: (it may take time to download because it is a big size but compressed quicktime video) 7.5 mb aproximately www.estamosenvideo.com/movies/sweet_intro.mov __________________ J. Carlos Orozco "Yasik" Director http://estamosenvideo.com http://estamosenvideo.com/yasik

February 5th, 2006, 07:04 AM	#2
Ron German Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Rio de Janeiro - Brasil Posts: 304	Hi Carlos When watching the (good) video "Basse", I wonder how was your workflow with 25p to get a (I gess) ntsc colour edited final product? What was your master for that video, DV ntsc, Digital Betacam? How "filmic" was the edited master? My questions are relevant because I`m considering to purchase the Z1U instead of HVX200, but my concern is how dificult is to get filmlike stuff from 25p or deinterlaced 50i, both converted to 24p and rendered to ntsc DV, or any of HD format. I edit with Vegas. Best Ron

February 9th, 2006, 04:45 AM	#4
Evan C. King Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 532	In the post above me you mention using the cineframe 25 on the camera but your oringal post you say you used cineframe 24? People say that cineframe 24 looks terrible but that looks fine! Are you sure this was the cineframe 24 mode on the z1u?

February 9th, 2006, 05:48 AM	#5
Rafael Lopes Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Rio de Janeiro Posts: 1,240	The link is broken for me (proxyerror.nsf) :(

February 9th, 2006, 07:13 AM	#6
Leo Pepingco Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 275	Wow... I'm impressed... Considering that it is a file uploaded for the Internet. I wonder what the actual footage looks without all those artifacts that all Net vids come with. I do Have one question... How on earth do you create those Green Screen effects.... The best I've done was shoot a lava lamp in closeup etc... But I've never known where or how you get those digitally created effects... I'd love to know how its done...

February 9th, 2006, 08:31 PM	#10
Leo Pepingco Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 275	This is cool... much better than the last one you posted. You used FCP right? I cant imagine any other Editing Program that can do this. (Maybe I havent come across it yet)

February 9th, 2006, 08:56 PM	#11
Carlos Yasik New Boot Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Guadalajara, Jalisco, México. Posts: 19	Sorry Leo, I didn't anser your question, those effects are part of a collection, like art beats, and all others, you can buy them online. But sometimes, i do the.. like for example, the backgrounds in the last posted video. __________________ J. Carlos Orozco "Yasik" Director http://estamosenvideo.com http://estamosenvideo.com/yasik

March 6th, 2006, 10:06 AM	#12
Daniel Nunez New Boot Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Chesapeake, VA Posts: 16	Me gusto el video! Adonde lo hacieron? En Mexico? Me gusto los partes adentro con el hombre. Este video es muscho mas mejor que el otro de la grupacion Base. Me gusta tus obras. Sigue en eso... __________________ www.rocksteadycreations.com "we don't capture magic... we create it"