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Dmitry Yun · October 14th, 2005, 09:41 PM

Hello fellas, I was wondering. If I do decide on the FX1 will my footage in NTSC land look just as good as McGregors FX1E in Pal? I mean I've read a couple of bad things about the NTSC 24F feature but he seems to be shooting his stuff in 25f and it's absolutely drop dead gorgeous.

John Rofrano · October 14th, 2005, 11:29 PM

CF24 is not going to look as good as CF25 PAL. The reason is because CF25 uses a 1/50 shutter speed and is recorded at 50i. To get from 50 to 25 it simply throws out the odd fields and you get a nicely simulated 25 progressive frames.

CF24 uses a 1/60 shutter speed at 60i. To get to 24fps is has to add 3:2 pulldown and there is where the stutter comes in. If you shoot using CF30 you will get the same nice result as your friend with his PAL camera because CF30 uses 1/60 shutter speed at 60i and throws out the odd fields. Unfortunately CF30 doesn’t have the same cadence as CF25 (or real 24p) but it is gorgeous.

If you really want 24p and you want to buy the US FX1, I would either shoot in straight 60i and convert to 24p in software (where you can do more advanced interlacing and pulldown), or shoot CF30 and convert to 24p in software. I would not use CF24 at all.

~jr

Dmitry Yun · October 14th, 2005, 11:57 PM

Hey Thanks John very informative, now I know what the 50i stands for in the FX1 motoC footage with the ducks and swans.

Boyd Ostroff · October 15th, 2005, 08:21 AM

Or you could also just buy the HVR-Z1 and have the best of both worlds. It shoots PAL, NTSC and HDV at 50i and 60i along with CF24, CF25 and CF30. Of course it costs more though...

October 14th, 2005, 09:41 PM	#1
Dmitry Yun Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 170	Just wondering Hello fellas, I was wondering. If I do decide on the FX1 will my footage in NTSC land look just as good as McGregors FX1E in Pal? I mean I've read a couple of bad things about the NTSC 24F feature but he seems to be shooting his stuff in 25f and it's absolutely drop dead gorgeous.

October 14th, 2005, 11:29 PM	#2
John Rofrano Sponsor: VASST Join Date: May 2005 Location: New York Posts: 516	CF24 is not going to look as good as CF25 PAL. The reason is because CF25 uses a 1/50 shutter speed and is recorded at 50i. To get from 50 to 25 it simply throws out the odd fields and you get a nicely simulated 25 progressive frames. CF24 uses a 1/60 shutter speed at 60i. To get to 24fps is has to add 3:2 pulldown and there is where the stutter comes in. If you shoot using CF30 you will get the same nice result as your friend with his PAL camera because CF30 uses 1/60 shutter speed at 60i and throws out the odd fields. Unfortunately CF30 doesn’t have the same cadence as CF25 (or real 24p) but it is gorgeous. If you really want 24p and you want to buy the US FX1, I would either shoot in straight 60i and convert to 24p in software (where you can do more advanced interlacing and pulldown), or shoot CF30 and convert to 24p in software. I would not use CF24 at all. ~jr __________________ Developer: VASST Ultimate S, Scattershot 3D, Mayhem, FASST Apps, and other VASST Software plug-ins Web Site: www.johnrofrano.com

October 14th, 2005, 11:57 PM	#3
Dmitry Yun Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 170	Hey Thanks John very informative, now I know what the 50i stands for in the FX1 motoC footage with the ducks and swans.

October 15th, 2005, 08:21 AM	#4
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	Or you could also just buy the HVR-Z1 and have the best of both worlds. It shoots PAL, NTSC and HDV at 50i and 60i along with CF24, CF25 and CF30. Of course it costs more though...