Using Z1 settings to emulate filters at DVinfo.net

Colvin Eccleston · April 9th, 2005, 06:48 AM

I know DSE was trying to get people to share settings but I didn't see many replies. Can anyone give me a pointer in what settings I could use to make a picture profile that would emulate the effect of a Tiffen Warm Black Promist, Gold Diffusion/FX and the Glimmerglass.
I have done a bit of experimentation with skin detail, colour level etc but I have no experience with real filters and I need a good starting point.
Yes, I will buy the real filters, when I can find a cheap UK source.

Robin Davies-Rollinson · April 9th, 2005, 09:54 AM

Colvin.
I can't think of any camera that will give a built-in diffused effect such as a Pro-mist ( though I remember some studio cameras that had star effects and the like on a filter ring, but that's not relevant here)
The only settings that are tweakable are gamma and colour - everything else is filter or post-prod...

Robin

Colvin Eccleston · April 9th, 2005, 11:01 AM

The diffusion isn't the important part of the look for me. I suppose I find most attractive the way the filter interacts with the normal colours. DSE gave me a recipe before that worked with low light and I was hoping for something similar with other settings. I have fiddled with the cinegamma etc but, as I said, I don't have the experience with real filters to know what tweak provides which effect. In the past I have preferred to do it all in post but until my pc catches up with HDV requirements, I am trying to move the work on getting a "look" to the time of production to avoid lengthy rendering and post work.
I was thinking that I could work with sharpness, colour and the other settings I don't yet understand to get the colour effect without sacrificing too much. I don't want to lose too much of the HDV resolution but I think there is room there to do some glamourising work for my customers. If I can't do it with the camera settings, I will just have to hurry up and find a good Tiffen dealer that stocks more than the UV and polariser.

George Griswold · April 14th, 2005, 12:54 PM

Filters are the way to go. I did some tests by reducing the sharpness/ detail and it just makes it look like a crappy camera.

I am going to post today my set of Camera Prests that I like.

April 9th, 2005, 06:48 AM	#1
Colvin Eccleston Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 93	Using Z1 settings to emulate filters I know DSE was trying to get people to share settings but I didn't see many replies. Can anyone give me a pointer in what settings I could use to make a picture profile that would emulate the effect of a Tiffen Warm Black Promist, Gold Diffusion/FX and the Glimmerglass. I have done a bit of experimentation with skin detail, colour level etc but I have no experience with real filters and I need a good starting point. Yes, I will buy the real filters, when I can find a cheap UK source.

April 14th, 2005, 12:54 PM	#4
George Griswold Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 218	Filters are the way to go. I did some tests by reducing the sharpness/ detail and it just makes it look like a crappy camera. I am going to post today my set of Camera Prests that I like. __________________ George T. Griswold, Jr. www.videonow.info New Orleans

April 9th, 2005, 09:54 AM	#2
Robin Davies-Rollinson Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Gwaelod-y-garth, Cardiff, CYMRU/WALES Posts: 1,215	Colvin. I can't think of any camera that will give a built-in diffused effect such as a Pro-mist ( though I remember some studio cameras that had star effects and the like on a filter ring, but that's not relevant here) The only settings that are tweakable are gamma and colour - everything else is filter or post-prod... Robin

April 9th, 2005, 11:01 AM	#3
Colvin Eccleston Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 93	The diffusion isn't the important part of the look for me. I suppose I find most attractive the way the filter interacts with the normal colours. DSE gave me a recipe before that worked with low light and I was hoping for something similar with other settings. I have fiddled with the cinegamma etc but, as I said, I don't have the experience with real filters to know what tweak provides which effect. In the past I have preferred to do it all in post but until my pc catches up with HDV requirements, I am trying to move the work on getting a "look" to the time of production to avoid lengthy rendering and post work. I was thinking that I could work with sharpness, colour and the other settings I don't yet understand to get the colour effect without sacrificing too much. I don't want to lose too much of the HDV resolution but I think there is room there to do some glamourising work for my customers. If I can't do it with the camera settings, I will just have to hurry up and find a good Tiffen dealer that stocks more than the UV and polariser.