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Mike Moncrief · February 11th, 2005, 07:17 PM

Hi all,

I am pondering getting the FX1, and would buy an XLR adapter like the Beachtek.. i have seen a picture of the Beachtek, and it looks like it mounts on the bottom of the camera(where the camera would mount to a tripod) When the Beachtek is on the camera, can you still mount the camera on a Tripod??
Is there any other XLR options for the camera beside the beachtek?? What kind of prices are these adapters going for??

Thanks,
Mike m.

Zack Birlew · February 11th, 2005, 07:54 PM

I would imagine you could install the Beachtek on a tripod, but not owning one, I'm not 100% on that. Yes, there are other adapters but they're just the same thing from other manufacturers. Stick with what you know I say.

Jasenn Robertson · February 11th, 2005, 09:17 PM

There's a screw in the bottom of the Beachtek, which is how you tighten it to the camera. You then attach your tripod plate to the Beachtek. There are a variety of Beachtek Adapters, also Sign Video makes adapters, although I think Beachtek's look a little more professional. I'd recommend the DX-6, as it has the XLR inputs on the front of the box, which is closer to the mic input on the left side of the camera, when facing the front of the camera. The DX-4 has less controls than the DX-6, a larger profile, and has the XLR inputs on the far side ofthe camera, I believe. The DX-6 is around $250, and they go down in price from there.

Bryan McCullough · February 11th, 2005, 10:30 PM

I've got my FX1 on a Beachtek DX-4. It never comes off, I can still put the camera on a tripod or on my DVRig Pro, whatever.

It also fits like a glove under the camera, like it was designed to fit in that space. I'll try to put some pics up when I can.

Bryan McCullough · February 11th, 2005, 11:32 PM

Here are a few quick pics.

Jasenn Robertson · February 12th, 2005, 12:15 AM

Bryan, thanks for the pics. Are you using an on-camera shotgun? And if so, how are you mounting it. I'm realizing the camera can get front heavy, since the hotshoe is so far in front.

Check this out, if you have need of a mount for wireless receivers. A guy I work with has one for his pd-170. It's pretty sweet, and it should work nice with the FX-1, as the bottom is flush.

http://www.thebecgroup.com/frameset1.asp?product_id=BEC-DVCAMB

Carlos E. Martinez · February 12th, 2005, 04:19 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Jasenn Robertson :
Check this out, if you have need of a mount for wireless receivers. A guy I work with has one for his pd-170. It's pretty sweet, and it should work nice with the FX-1, as the bottom is flush.

http://www.thebecgroup.com/frameset1.asp?product_id=BEC-DVCAMB -->>>

This one does the same and is much cheaper:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home;jsessionid=CNWqbkcN2G!-1668563957?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=284435&is=REG

Only here the mic goes up front and not on the back. That might affect camera balance.

Carlos

Greg Jacobson · February 12th, 2005, 05:10 AM

try a Sound Devices Mix Pre. I might even use one with the Z1 beacuse the preampss are way better.

Bryan McCullough · February 12th, 2005, 07:57 AM

Quote:

[i[Originally posted by Jasenn Robertson[/i]
Bryan, thanks for the pics. Are you using an on-camera shotgun? And if so, how are you mounting it. I'm realizing the camera can get front heavy, since the hotshoe is so far in front.

Yes, I am using the shoe to mount my shotgun when I need it on camera. However, when the mic is mounted it's goes back far enough to cause me to not be able to close the LCD screen.

I need to find an adapter that will allow me to mount the shotgun off to the side a bit and out of the way of the LCD screen but haven't found anything yet.

Hans ter Lingen · February 12th, 2005, 08:02 AM

There was a review in which they claim that every sound caused by movement of your hand (like pushing buttons on the cam) is recorded? This would be very bad. Can someone confirm this.

Greg Jacobson · February 12th, 2005, 10:10 AM

Yes, the onboard mic pics up zoom, autofocus, and all your hand movements. But you can't use the onboard mic with when your real mic is turned on so it really does not matter most of the time.

I wish the on board mic could be removed.

Mike Moncrief · February 12th, 2005, 10:31 AM

Hello,

thanks guys for all the great insight.. Pictures and everything !!

Thanks,
Mike M.

Jasenn Robertson · February 12th, 2005, 11:26 AM

Carlos,

I did see that one when I was doing my research. I think that one would work great if you're using the DX-4, as the XLR's would be on the same side as the receiver.

Bryan, would this work as a solution? Although, there's probably a cheaper way to do it with some hotshoe extension brackets.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=WishList.jsp&A=details&Q=&sku=292448&is=REG

I also did some more reading and found out you could mount a sony mic holder (from a pd-150) to the back of the BEC wireless bracket I mentioned above. This would be a good choice if the mic had little behind it, and it would take some of the weight off the front.

Bryan McCullough · February 12th, 2005, 01:50 PM

Jasenn,

Thanks for that link. That's the idea of what I need to do, only I've got a shock mount for my mic so really all I need is something that basically gives me another shoe mount about 2 inches to the side of where it is now.

I'm sure there's got to be something like that, I just can't seem to find it or figure out how to search for it.

Hans ter Lingen · February 12th, 2005, 03:39 PM

I don't understand your eplanation. If I only want to use the built in mike you in fact say it is crap since it picks up all kinds of sound like zooming, focussing etc.. Sony should have noticed this themself or am i so stupid ???

February 11th, 2005, 07:17 PM	#1
Mike Moncrief Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: orlando florida Posts: 426	FX1 and Beachtek Hi all, I am pondering getting the FX1, and would buy an XLR adapter like the Beachtek.. i have seen a picture of the Beachtek, and it looks like it mounts on the bottom of the camera(where the camera would mount to a tripod) When the Beachtek is on the camera, can you still mount the camera on a Tripod?? Is there any other XLR options for the camera beside the beachtek?? What kind of prices are these adapters going for?? Thanks, Mike m. __________________ Mike Moncrief mikemoncrief@gmail.com www.themikemoncrief.com

February 11th, 2005, 07:54 PM	#2
Zack Birlew Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 613	I would imagine you could install the Beachtek on a tripod, but not owning one, I'm not 100% on that. Yes, there are other adapters but they're just the same thing from other manufacturers. Stick with what you know I say. __________________ "Babs Do or Babs Do not, there is no try." - Zack Birlew www.BabsDoProductions.com

February 11th, 2005, 09:17 PM	#3
Jasenn Robertson New Boot Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 19	There's a screw in the bottom of the Beachtek, which is how you tighten it to the camera. You then attach your tripod plate to the Beachtek. There are a variety of Beachtek Adapters, also Sign Video makes adapters, although I think Beachtek's look a little more professional. I'd recommend the DX-6, as it has the XLR inputs on the front of the box, which is closer to the mic input on the left side of the camera, when facing the front of the camera. The DX-4 has less controls than the DX-6, a larger profile, and has the XLR inputs on the far side ofthe camera, I believe. The DX-6 is around $250, and they go down in price from there. __________________ Jasenn Robertson, Editor Alexandria, VA

February 12th, 2005, 12:15 AM	#6
Jasenn Robertson New Boot Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 19	Bryan, thanks for the pics. Are you using an on-camera shotgun? And if so, how are you mounting it. I'm realizing the camera can get front heavy, since the hotshoe is so far in front. Check this out, if you have need of a mount for wireless receivers. A guy I work with has one for his pd-170. It's pretty sweet, and it should work nice with the FX-1, as the bottom is flush. http://www.thebecgroup.com/frameset1.asp?product_id=BEC-DVCAMB __________________ Jasenn Robertson, Editor Alexandria, VA

February 12th, 2005, 10:31 AM	#12
Mike Moncrief Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: orlando florida Posts: 426	Hello, thanks guys for all the great insight.. Pictures and everything !! Thanks, Mike M. __________________ Mike Moncrief mikemoncrief@gmail.com www.themikemoncrief.com

February 11th, 2005, 10:30 PM	#4
Bryan McCullough Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Richardson, TX Posts: 842	I've got my FX1 on a Beachtek DX-4. It never comes off, I can still put the camera on a tripod or on my DVRig Pro, whatever. It also fits like a glove under the camera, like it was designed to fit in that space. I'll try to put some pics up when I can.

February 11th, 2005, 11:32 PM	#5
Bryan McCullough Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Richardson, TX Posts: 842	Here are a few quick pics.

February 12th, 2005, 04:19 AM	#7
Carlos E. Martinez Trustee Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brasil Posts: 1,138	<<<-- Originally posted by Jasenn Robertson : Check this out, if you have need of a mount for wireless receivers. A guy I work with has one for his pd-170. It's pretty sweet, and it should work nice with the FX-1, as the bottom is flush. http://www.thebecgroup.com/frameset1.asp?product_id=BEC-DVCAMB -->>> This one does the same and is much cheaper: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home;jsessionid=CNWqbkcN2G!-1668563957?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=284435&is=REG Only here the mic goes up front and not on the back. That might affect camera balance. Carlos

February 12th, 2005, 05:10 AM	#8
Greg Jacobson Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New York Posts: 141	try a Sound Devices Mix Pre. I might even use one with the Z1 beacuse the preampss are way better.

February 12th, 2005, 08:02 AM	#10
Hans ter Lingen Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 55	There was a review in which they claim that every sound caused by movement of your hand (like pushing buttons on the cam) is recorded? This would be very bad. Can someone confirm this.

February 12th, 2005, 10:10 AM	#11
Greg Jacobson Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New York Posts: 141	Yes, the onboard mic pics up zoom, autofocus, and all your hand movements. But you can't use the onboard mic with when your real mic is turned on so it really does not matter most of the time. I wish the on board mic could be removed.

February 12th, 2005, 11:26 AM	#13
Jasenn Robertson New Boot Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 19	Carlos, I did see that one when I was doing my research. I think that one would work great if you're using the DX-4, as the XLR's would be on the same side as the receiver. Bryan, would this work as a solution? Although, there's probably a cheaper way to do it with some hotshoe extension brackets. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=WishList.jsp&A=details&Q=&sku=292448&is=REG I also did some more reading and found out you could mount a sony mic holder (from a pd-150) to the back of the BEC wireless bracket I mentioned above. This would be a good choice if the mic had little behind it, and it would take some of the weight off the front. __________________ Jasenn Robertson, Editor Alexandria, VA

February 12th, 2005, 01:50 PM	#14
Bryan McCullough Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Richardson, TX Posts: 842	Jasenn, Thanks for that link. That's the idea of what I need to do, only I've got a shock mount for my mic so really all I need is something that basically gives me another shoe mount about 2 inches to the side of where it is now. I'm sure there's got to be something like that, I just can't seem to find it or figure out how to search for it.

February 12th, 2005, 03:39 PM	#15
Hans ter Lingen Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 55	greg I don't understand your eplanation. If I only want to use the built in mike you in fact say it is crap since it picks up all kinds of sound like zooming, focussing etc.. Sony should have noticed this themself or am i so stupid ???