Nobody complaining that their cheapo batteries do not work?

Chris Hurd · February 8th, 2005, 10:58 PM

<< I made sure I bought some batteries that were LithiumInfo compatible >>

I think Shannon has hit dead center on the key to this little mystery.

Betsy Moore · February 8th, 2005, 11:51 PM

Sony has always been greedy when it comes to things like this. I had one of the first sony discmen and lost the standard AC adaptor but they had rigged it so you couldn't go to radio shack and by a replacement for $5, you had to order a new AC plug from them for close to the cost of the cost of the player its self. They're a great company but boy can they be sleazy.

David Kennett · February 9th, 2005, 08:53 AM

Betsy,

Maybe great products - not so great a company.

Some years back (during the VHS - Beta war) some friends of ours were doing tests for a number of products. They would try different brands. Different kinds of mayonaise - different restaurants - etc. One time they were to go to electronics stores and express interest in a VCR. If the clerk pushed Beta, he-she would receive $100 (as I recall). I guess I continue to be suspicious.

Did we really need the memory stick? How much do you think the FX-1 would cost if it weren't for the HD-10?

Filip Kovcin · February 9th, 2005, 12:10 PM

is someone cappable to TEST how both cameras behave when used SAME type of batteries?

i mean will i.e. certain battery with certain parameters work LONGER on FX1 then on Z1?

thanks,

filip

Ignacio Rodriguez · February 9th, 2005, 02:44 PM

> will i.e. certain battery with certain parameters
> work LONGER on FX1 then on Z1

The two cameras are so similar that I really doubt such a thing could happen, just like with the PD170/VX2100, PDX10/TRV950... surely the Phantom power circuit, which is probably the main physical difference due to the XLR inputs, consumes almost no power at all. The slight increase in tape speed when operating in DVCAM mode also means nothing in terms of power difference.

Filip Kovcin · February 9th, 2005, 03:06 PM

thank you ignacio.

filip

Khoi Pham · February 9th, 2005, 03:23 PM

Actually the Z1 use more power when you have both lcd and viewfinder on.

Ignacio Rodriguez · February 9th, 2005, 03:33 PM

> Actually the Z1 use more power when
> you have both lcd and viewfinder on.

Ahhh yes that makes sense. You can't do that on the FX1, right?

Filip Kovcin · February 9th, 2005, 03:39 PM

maybe this is stupid question but did anyone tryed the difference between shooting NTSC vs PAL - of course in terms of battery life!

i didn't... so maybe anyone with Z1?

filip

Bryan McCullough · February 10th, 2005, 09:51 AM

FWIW, the Power 2000 battery that I bought from B&H for my FX1 seems to work just fine.

Filip Kovcin · February 10th, 2005, 01:19 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Bryan McCullough : FWIW, the Power 2000 battery that I bought from B&H for my FX1 seems to work just fine. -->>>

sorry - this is possibly obvious for someone, but not for me. what FWIW stand for?

thanks,

filip

Ignacio Rodriguez · February 10th, 2005, 01:23 PM

I think it stands for "For What It's Worth".

Filip Kovcin · February 11th, 2005, 02:55 AM

thanks ignacio.

Scott Anderson · February 11th, 2005, 08:17 AM

On a related note, there are several adapters that allow you to run a VX-2000/PD-150 from an Anton Bauer or V-Mount professional battery. Since this camera is a bit more of a power hog, and I would often use a mount such as a DVRig Pro or Stasis style shoulder mount, it would be useful to run off those batteries for counterbalance and longer runtimes.

Any guidance on what the possible issues are, or what 3rd party manufacturers would have to do to make this kind of rig possible?

Sean M Lee · February 12th, 2005, 08:31 PM

I wish I would have read this thread before I made this purchase:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MEWN:IT

I got 2, hopefully they'll work ok...or back on ebay they'll go

February 8th, 2005, 10:58 PM	#16
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February 9th, 2005, 08:53 AM	#18
David Kennett Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Ridgeville, Ohio Posts: 407	Betsy, Maybe great products - not so great a company. Some years back (during the VHS - Beta war) some friends of ours were doing tests for a number of products. They would try different brands. Different kinds of mayonaise - different restaurants - etc. One time they were to go to electronics stores and express interest in a VCR. If the clerk pushed Beta, he-she would receive $100 (as I recall). I guess I continue to be suspicious. Did we really need the memory stick? How much do you think the FX-1 would cost if it weren't for the HD-10? __________________ Dave

February 9th, 2005, 12:10 PM	#19
Filip Kovcin Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: warsaw, poland Posts: 440	is someone cappable to TEST how both cameras behave when used SAME type of batteries? i mean will i.e. certain battery with certain parameters work LONGER on FX1 then on Z1? thanks, filip __________________ in kino (sic!) veritas

February 9th, 2005, 02:44 PM	#20
Ignacio Rodriguez Contributor Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Santiago, Chile Posts: 932	> will i.e. certain battery with certain parameters > work LONGER on FX1 then on Z1 The two cameras are so similar that I really doubt such a thing could happen, just like with the PD170/VX2100, PDX10/TRV950... surely the Phantom power circuit, which is probably the main physical difference due to the XLR inputs, consumes almost no power at all. The slight increase in tape speed when operating in DVCAM mode also means nothing in terms of power difference. __________________ Ignacio Rodríguez in the third world. @micronauta on Twitter. Main hardware: brain, eyes, hands.

February 9th, 2005, 03:06 PM	#21
Filip Kovcin Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: warsaw, poland Posts: 440	thank you ignacio. filip __________________ in kino (sic!) veritas

February 8th, 2005, 11:51 PM	#17
Betsy Moore Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 444	Sony has always been greedy when it comes to things like this. I had one of the first sony discmen and lost the standard AC adaptor but they had rigged it so you couldn't go to radio shack and by a replacement for $5, you had to order a new AC plug from them for close to the cost of the cost of the player its self. They're a great company but boy can they be sleazy.

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Khoi Pham Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Dallas Posts: 747	Actually the Z1 use more power when you have both lcd and viewfinder on. __________________ Khoi Pham www.proeditproductions.com

February 9th, 2005, 03:33 PM	#23
Ignacio Rodriguez Contributor Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Santiago, Chile Posts: 932	> Actually the Z1 use more power when > you have both lcd and viewfinder on. Ahhh yes that makes sense. You can't do that on the FX1, right? __________________ Ignacio Rodríguez in the third world. @micronauta on Twitter. Main hardware: brain, eyes, hands.

February 9th, 2005, 03:39 PM	#24
Filip Kovcin Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: warsaw, poland Posts: 440	maybe this is stupid question but did anyone tryed the difference between shooting NTSC vs PAL - of course in terms of battery life! i didn't... so maybe anyone with Z1? filip __________________ in kino (sic!) veritas

February 10th, 2005, 09:51 AM	#25
Bryan McCullough Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Richardson, TX Posts: 842	FWIW, the Power 2000 battery that I bought from B&H for my FX1 seems to work just fine.

February 10th, 2005, 01:19 PM	#26
Filip Kovcin Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: warsaw, poland Posts: 440	<<<-- Originally posted by Bryan McCullough : FWIW, the Power 2000 battery that I bought from B&H for my FX1 seems to work just fine. -->>> sorry - this is possibly obvious for someone, but not for me. what FWIW stand for? thanks, filip __________________ in kino (sic!) veritas

February 10th, 2005, 01:23 PM	#27
Ignacio Rodriguez Contributor Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Santiago, Chile Posts: 932	I think it stands for "For What It's Worth". __________________ Ignacio Rodríguez in the third world. @micronauta on Twitter. Main hardware: brain, eyes, hands.

February 11th, 2005, 02:55 AM	#28
Filip Kovcin Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: warsaw, poland Posts: 440	thanks ignacio. __________________ in kino (sic!) veritas

February 11th, 2005, 08:17 AM	#29
Scott Anderson Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 327	On a related note, there are several adapters that allow you to run a VX-2000/PD-150 from an Anton Bauer or V-Mount professional battery. Since this camera is a bit more of a power hog, and I would often use a mount such as a DVRig Pro or Stasis style shoulder mount, it would be useful to run off those batteries for counterbalance and longer runtimes. Any guidance on what the possible issues are, or what 3rd party manufacturers would have to do to make this kind of rig possible?

February 12th, 2005, 08:31 PM	#30
Sean M Lee Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indy Posts: 160	I wish I would have read this thread before I made this purchase: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MEWN:IT I got 2, hopefully they'll work ok...or back on ebay they'll go