FX1/Z1 for Live Event/IMAG? at DVinfo.net

Jasenn Robertson · January 23rd, 2005, 09:52 PM

Is anybody here using the FX-1 for live events or IMAG? I was asked to find some field cameras for my church and have settled on the Z1, but I now find out that they may want to double their functionality and use them for IMAG (image magnification) during services. I've read about a delay in the HDV recording output, is it there for standard DV/DVCAM with the RCA outputs? Will it shoot 16:9 DV, or do you have to shoot in HDV and downconvert on the fly to get 16:9 DVCAM, and is there then quite a delay with that process?

Bob Zimmerman · January 24th, 2005, 03:43 AM

It will shoot 16:9 Dv or HD.

Patrick Williams · February 5th, 2005, 02:03 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Jasenn Robertson : I've read about a delay in the HDV recording output, is it there for standard DV/DVCAM with the RCA outputs? Will it shoot 16:9 DV, or do you have to shoot in HDV and downconvert on the fly to get 16:9 DVCAM, and is there then quite a delay with that process? -->>>
There is no delay using component out for the HD feed. The delay is only using firewire out where the video is mpeg compressed and has to be uncompressed.

Eric Lagerlof · February 5th, 2005, 09:55 PM

You may want to experiment with the different analog outs on the camera as well as the different inputs on the projector. The component out on the camera is, I believe, HD (Maybe SD as well?). Whereas the S and composite video will be SD video.

On most projectors, the RGB inputs are looking for computer video, not the Y, R-Y, B-Y that makes up video, though some do both. (i.e.,on the RGB input menu if you set 'the sync settings to 'sync on green' the projector can grab the signal.) The composite and S-video inputs should be happy with SD however.

There may be quality/signal issues that come up if the projector can't handle the native HD output of the camera and has to 'scale' the signal on the fly. But, even if the HD output doesn't work at first, you might be able to change settings in the projector menu that will help it work. Check with the projector manual and e-mail the manufacturer for suggestions. Brave New World, huh?!

Jack McCann · February 7th, 2005, 09:54 PM

Hi,

Having a similar issue:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?s=&threadid=39054

Will it only ouput 4:3 in DV mode?? That's what it looks like from reading the manual.

J

Bryan McCullough · February 7th, 2005, 09:58 PM

Jack,

From what I understand and have read 4:3 is only available in DV mode and in DV mode you can select 16:9 or 4:3.

Jack McCann · February 7th, 2005, 11:00 PM

Good enough, thanks Bryan.

J

Jasenn Robertson · February 8th, 2005, 07:29 PM

Thanks for your replies. Patrick, is there a delay in using the composite or s-video outputs?

We're using a scaler by FSR, so I don't have to worry about going directly to the projector, Eric.

January 23rd, 2005, 09:52 PM	#1
Jasenn Robertson New Boot Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 19	FX1/Z1 for Live Event/IMAG? Is anybody here using the FX-1 for live events or IMAG? I was asked to find some field cameras for my church and have settled on the Z1, but I now find out that they may want to double their functionality and use them for IMAG (image magnification) during services. I've read about a delay in the HDV recording output, is it there for standard DV/DVCAM with the RCA outputs? Will it shoot 16:9 DV, or do you have to shoot in HDV and downconvert on the fly to get 16:9 DVCAM, and is there then quite a delay with that process? __________________ Jasenn Robertson, Editor Alexandria, VA

February 5th, 2005, 02:03 PM	#3
Patrick Williams Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 52	Re: FX1/Z1 for Live Event/IMAG? <<<-- Originally posted by Jasenn Robertson : I've read about a delay in the HDV recording output, is it there for standard DV/DVCAM with the RCA outputs? Will it shoot 16:9 DV, or do you have to shoot in HDV and downconvert on the fly to get 16:9 DVCAM, and is there then quite a delay with that process? -->>> There is no delay using component out for the HD feed. The delay is only using firewire out where the video is mpeg compressed and has to be uncompressed.

February 8th, 2005, 07:29 PM	#8
Jasenn Robertson New Boot Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 19	Thanks for your replies. Patrick, is there a delay in using the composite or s-video outputs? We're using a scaler by FSR, so I don't have to worry about going directly to the projector, Eric. __________________ Jasenn Robertson, Editor Alexandria, VA

January 24th, 2005, 03:43 AM	#2
Bob Zimmerman Major Player Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Illinois Posts: 888	It will shoot 16:9 Dv or HD.

February 5th, 2005, 09:55 PM	#4
Eric Lagerlof Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 348	You may want to experiment with the different analog outs on the camera as well as the different inputs on the projector. The component out on the camera is, I believe, HD (Maybe SD as well?). Whereas the S and composite video will be SD video. On most projectors, the RGB inputs are looking for computer video, not the Y, R-Y, B-Y that makes up video, though some do both. (i.e.,on the RGB input menu if you set 'the sync settings to 'sync on green' the projector can grab the signal.) The composite and S-video inputs should be happy with SD however. There may be quality/signal issues that come up if the projector can't handle the native HD output of the camera and has to 'scale' the signal on the fly. But, even if the HD output doesn't work at first, you might be able to change settings in the projector menu that will help it work. Check with the projector manual and e-mail the manufacturer for suggestions. Brave New World, huh?!

February 7th, 2005, 09:54 PM	#5
Jack McCann New Boot Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 16	Hi, Having a similar issue: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?s=&threadid=39054 Will it only ouput 4:3 in DV mode?? That's what it looks like from reading the manual. J

February 7th, 2005, 09:58 PM	#6
Bryan McCullough Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Richardson, TX Posts: 842	Jack, From what I understand and have read 4:3 is only available in DV mode and in DV mode you can select 16:9 or 4:3.

February 7th, 2005, 11:00 PM	#7
Jack McCann New Boot Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 16	Good enough, thanks Bryan. J