The price of Z1 at DVinfo.net

John Jay · November 25th, 2004, 12:01 PM

Can someone throw some light on the price of the Z1?

Japan says 600000Y ~~ $6000

http://www.sony.jp/CorporateCruise/P...00411/11-1110/

US1 says $6000

http://bssc.sel.sony.com/Professiona...p=141&id=78439

US2 says $4900

http://news.sel.sony.com/pressrelease/5327

if $6000 I shall be cancelling my weekend break to the apple come Feb

Boyd Ostroff · November 25th, 2004, 12:07 PM

B&H Photo in NYC lists them as "in stock" for $3,499 (NTSC). This appears to be a recent price drop - you now need to click on the "give me a price" link and enter your name.

The PAL model lists for $3,999.95 on their site http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...=356387&is=REG

John Jay · November 25th, 2004, 12:16 PM

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Wake up Boyd Z1 not FX1 :)

BTW I was planning to head for B&H, but $6k is a no no

Chris Hurd · November 25th, 2004, 04:07 PM

We're all a little tired today from the tryptophan, Jay -- isn't that the best part of a Thanksgiving Day turkey?

At the Sony press conference I attended earlier this month, Sony said $4900 for the Z1U. That's official, and much lower than was earlier rumored. So you'll have to wait for all the other online info to catch up and get updated. Corporations tend to move slowly.

Boyd Ostroff · November 25th, 2004, 08:35 PM

Oops.... sorry... actually too many hours straight of video editing for the past 4 days!

Then again, I keep forgetting that some of you guys are bold enough to order products that aren't even shipping.... ;-)

Betsy Moore · November 26th, 2004, 09:05 AM

Speaking of PAL, has anyone seen a better price for a PAL FX1 than the one listed on B&H?

Heath McKnight · November 26th, 2004, 09:35 AM

I'm looking to buy the FX1 finally! About darn time!

heath

Edwin Hernandez · November 26th, 2004, 10:04 AM

B&H already lists the price of the Z1U in $4,999. And they say it will be available in February. So, I guess that's the price will see everywhere, at least for the first 2-3 months.

-EDWIN

Robin Davies-Rollinson · November 26th, 2004, 10:22 AM

John,
The Z1 should be in the region of 3500 GBP...

Robin

John Jay · November 26th, 2004, 10:24 AM

Sony Europe is stating Euro 5500 ~ $6k for the Z1

http://www.sony-europe.com/PageView....=1095156844875

This is now 3/1 against the price of $4900

$2300 extra premium is too much and nearly the price of a second FX1

John Jay · November 26th, 2004, 10:28 AM

Hi Robin

I see you've done the unbelievable and sacked Canon for the FX1, give us some feedback on it.

Yes the £3500 is consistent with the $6k figure, shame really because at $4900 I could have had a weekend city break in the apple and shot some Fincher style cityscapes for the price differential

Dave Elston · November 26th, 2004, 01:20 PM

Hi John,

Sadly, I think the reality of living in the UK is that we are expected to pay well over the equivalent $$ value of just about anything...

eg, FX1 = $3,499 in US & £2,495 in UK
= $/£ 1.4

so if Z1 = £3,500 then US should be $4,900

Thats just the way things work... :0(

Whats worse is if the $6k price is accurate, we can expect to pay closer to £4,300 for the Z1 - Ouch!!

Robin Davies-Rollinson · November 26th, 2004, 06:19 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by John Jay

I see you've done the unbelievable and sacked Canon for the FX1, give us some feedback on it. -->>>

Hi John,

It does sound a bit unbelievable, doesn't it!
The truth is, I had the XL2 and the FX1 out the other week. Not the same day - it just couldn't be arranged that way...)
I shot some footage at the same location with both cameras, and I had to admit to myself that the FX1 HDV material downconverted in camera to DV (Firewire into a Canon) looked better that the straight Canon DV. Note that I was shooting in 16:9, since that is the only format I really need since I work in the broadcast sector.
My dilemma - and it's a big one - is that neither Canon or Sony have delivered a camera that's going to suit me entirely.
The XL2 is great because of the choice of being able to change the lens.
Plus the fact that its viewfinder is in the "proper" position - it sits into one's face better than the rear handycam type. It's a lot easier to pan and tilt on a tripod with it as well.
But it ain't HDV - and that is going to go against it a lot quicker than people realise ( I'm talking in terms of broadcast use here mind - there'll be a host of aspiring indie "film makers" who'll get very good service from it.)

The Sony delivers the goods as far as high resolution pictures go.
The pro version will be "one camera fits all" inasmuch as it is PAL / NTSC switchable and HDV/DVCam/DV format as well.
Its also got the advantage that it comes under the Sony Broadcast heading - at least, here in the UK - with a whole service back-up army. Something I doubt that Canon can provide.
You may see the lack of interchangeable lenses as a disadvantage - indeed, I don't think that even its fixed lens at the tight end of the zoom is tight enough for lots of applications. The wide end is OK, but I think that I would be looking for a tele adaptor pretty quickly should I buy one.
However, we talking as if these were the only two cameras to be considered! Wait until Spring/Summer next year and see what JVC has to offer... HiDef, interchangeable lenses, no tape - but at what price I wonder.

Robin

Alex Pappas · November 26th, 2004, 08:37 PM

Yeah prices are all over the place for the Z1.

Originally, I was told it was coming in at $10,000. 00 CDN
Then it changed to $12,000.00

I bought the FX1 but I'd like to get my hands on the Z1 also.

But at this point, I honestly think we should wait to find out what the ACTUAL sale price will be. 'Cause as far as I'm concerned, its all rumors so far...

-alex

Kevin Dooley · November 27th, 2004, 04:09 PM

Last week I met with our Sony rep and amongst other things I was told that they would have the Z1 by the end of January to begin shipping out to us (the retailers). From the price I was given...I'm assuming $4900-$5K would be a reasonable street price, given that we're a small company and we're not on the best pricing tier...

November 25th, 2004, 12:01 PM	#1
John Jay Major Player Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: US & THEM Posts: 827	The price of Z1 Can someone throw some light on the price of the Z1? Japan says 600000Y ~~ $6000 http://www.sony.jp/CorporateCruise/P...00411/11-1110/ US1 says $6000 http://bssc.sel.sony.com/Professiona...p=141&id=78439 US2 says $4900 http://news.sel.sony.com/pressrelease/5327 if $6000 I shall be cancelling my weekend break to the apple come Feb __________________ John Jay Beware *PLUGGER-BYTES*

November 25th, 2004, 12:16 PM	#3
John Jay Major Player Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: US & THEM Posts: 827	ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz1 Wake up Boyd Z1 not FX1 :) BTW I was planning to head for B&H, but $6k is a no no __________________ John Jay Beware *PLUGGER-BYTES*

November 25th, 2004, 04:07 PM	#4
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	We're all a little tired today from the tryptophan, Jay -- isn't that the best part of a Thanksgiving Day turkey? At the Sony press conference I attended earlier this month, Sony said $4900 for the Z1U. That's official, and much lower than was earlier rumored. So you'll have to wait for all the other online info to catch up and get updated. Corporations tend to move slowly. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

November 26th, 2004, 09:35 AM	#7
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	I'm looking to buy the FX1 finally! About darn time! heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

November 26th, 2004, 10:24 AM	#10
John Jay Major Player Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: US & THEM Posts: 827	Sony Europe is stating Euro 5500 ~ $6k for the Z1 http://www.sony-europe.com/PageView....=1095156844875 This is now 3/1 against the price of $4900 $2300 extra premium is too much and nearly the price of a second FX1 __________________ John Jay Beware *PLUGGER-BYTES*

November 25th, 2004, 12:07 PM	#2
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	B&H Photo in NYC lists them as "in stock" for $3,499 (NTSC). This appears to be a recent price drop - you now need to click on the "give me a price" link and enter your name. The PAL model lists for $3,999.95 on their site http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...=356387&is=REG

November 25th, 2004, 08:35 PM	#5
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	Oops.... sorry... actually too many hours straight of video editing for the past 4 days! Then again, I keep forgetting that some of you guys are bold enough to order products that aren't even shipping.... ;-)

November 26th, 2004, 09:05 AM	#6
Betsy Moore Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 444	Speaking of PAL, has anyone seen a better price for a PAL FX1 than the one listed on B&H?

November 26th, 2004, 10:04 AM	#8
Edwin Hernandez Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Panama City, Panama Posts: 162	B&H already lists the price of the Z1U in $4,999. And they say it will be available in February. So, I guess that's the price will see everywhere, at least for the first 2-3 months. -EDWIN

November 26th, 2004, 10:22 AM	#9
Robin Davies-Rollinson Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Gwaelod-y-garth, Cardiff, CYMRU/WALES Posts: 1,215	John, The Z1 should be in the region of 3500 GBP... Robin

November 26th, 2004, 10:28 AM	#11
John Jay Major Player Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: US & THEM Posts: 827	Hi Robin I see you've done the unbelievable and sacked Canon for the FX1, give us some feedback on it. Yes the £3500 is consistent with the $6k figure, shame really because at $4900 I could have had a weekend city break in the apple and shot some Fincher style cityscapes for the price differential __________________ John Jay Beware *PLUGGER-BYTES*

November 26th, 2004, 01:20 PM	#12
Dave Elston Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: UK 50i/25p Land Posts: 103	Hi John, Sadly, I think the reality of living in the UK is that we are expected to pay well over the equivalent $$ value of just about anything... eg, FX1 = $3,499 in US & £2,495 in UK = $/£ 1.4 so if Z1 = £3,500 then US should be $4,900 Thats just the way things work... :0( Whats worse is if the $6k price is accurate, we can expect to pay closer to £4,300 for the Z1 - Ouch!! __________________ Play to Learn, Learn to Earn, Earn to Play... Dave - Broader Pictures

November 26th, 2004, 06:19 PM	#13
Robin Davies-Rollinson Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Gwaelod-y-garth, Cardiff, CYMRU/WALES Posts: 1,215	<<<-- Originally posted by John Jay I see you've done the unbelievable and sacked Canon for the FX1, give us some feedback on it. -->>> Hi John, It does sound a bit unbelievable, doesn't it! The truth is, I had the XL2 and the FX1 out the other week. Not the same day - it just couldn't be arranged that way...) I shot some footage at the same location with both cameras, and I had to admit to myself that the FX1 HDV material downconverted in camera to DV (Firewire into a Canon) looked better that the straight Canon DV. Note that I was shooting in 16:9, since that is the only format I really need since I work in the broadcast sector. My dilemma - and it's a big one - is that neither Canon or Sony have delivered a camera that's going to suit me entirely. The XL2 is great because of the choice of being able to change the lens. Plus the fact that its viewfinder is in the "proper" position - it sits into one's face better than the rear handycam type. It's a lot easier to pan and tilt on a tripod with it as well. But it ain't HDV - and that is going to go against it a lot quicker than people realise ( I'm talking in terms of broadcast use here mind - there'll be a host of aspiring indie "film makers" who'll get very good service from it.) The Sony delivers the goods as far as high resolution pictures go. The pro version will be "one camera fits all" inasmuch as it is PAL / NTSC switchable and HDV/DVCam/DV format as well. Its also got the advantage that it comes under the Sony Broadcast heading - at least, here in the UK - with a whole service back-up army. Something I doubt that Canon can provide. You may see the lack of interchangeable lenses as a disadvantage - indeed, I don't think that even its fixed lens at the tight end of the zoom is tight enough for lots of applications. The wide end is OK, but I think that I would be looking for a tele adaptor pretty quickly should I buy one. However, we talking as if these were the only two cameras to be considered! Wait until Spring/Summer next year and see what JVC has to offer... HiDef, interchangeable lenses, no tape - but at what price I wonder. Robin

November 26th, 2004, 08:37 PM	#14
Alex Pappas Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Orleans, Ontario, Canada Posts: 36	Yeah prices are all over the place for the Z1. Originally, I was told it was coming in at $10,000. 00 CDN Then it changed to $12,000.00 I bought the FX1 but I'd like to get my hands on the Z1 also. But at this point, I honestly think we should wait to find out what the ACTUAL sale price will be. 'Cause as far as I'm concerned, its all rumors so far... -alex __________________ --------------------------- Alexander Papaps Senior Producer JumpPoint Entertainment www.jumppoint.org

November 27th, 2004, 04:09 PM	#15
Kevin Dooley Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 414	My two cents... Last week I met with our Sony rep and amongst other things I was told that they would have the Z1 by the end of January to begin shipping out to us (the retailers). From the price I was given...I'm assuming $4900-$5K would be a reasonable street price, given that we're a small company and we're not on the best pricing tier...