The price of Z1

Ken Hodson · November 27th, 2004, 09:27 PM

I think the state of the US dollar will play a big roll in the final price for the cam in the United States . My Canadian dollar has dramaticaly increased against the US buck lately not because our dollar is so strong, but because the US dollar is falling huge in global standings. It could hit $6000 msp or more if the trend continues.

Lynne Whelden · November 27th, 2004, 10:29 PM

My understanding is that goods manufactured in Europe and imported into the US will increase in price. However, I don't think the same thing is happening with the dollar in Japan so the camera we're all interested in should remain stable in price.

Christopher C. Murphy · November 28th, 2004, 09:36 AM

If B&H or any reseller changes their price from what it is now - isn't that "bait and switch"? It is afterall a price displayed for an item they are not carrying yet, so by posting the price they are literally posting "bait". We can't get it now, so we're fishing for their item.

Murph

Simon Wyndham · November 28th, 2004, 11:34 AM

Chris, this might seem like a reeeeeeally dumb question. But how come you have a Z1 listed as part of your equipment when it isn't even out yet?

Darrell Essex · November 28th, 2004, 01:21 PM

Best Buy has the camera for $3329
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1096380765286&skuId=6905771&productCategoryId=cat15195&type=product

Simon Wyndham · November 28th, 2004, 01:29 PM

Umm yes, but it's not out yet. The FX1 is, but the Z1 is not.

Robin Davies-Rollinson · November 28th, 2004, 01:47 PM

Simon,
Creative Video are taking orders for the Z1 and are asking £4106.63 inc VAT.

Robin

Christopher C. Murphy · November 28th, 2004, 01:51 PM

Simon, I have budgeted money to purchase the Z1 as soon as its available. Also, I always forget to update my profiles everywhere so I decided to do it when I thought of it. No big thing as far as I can see, but if it bothers you I can remove it?

Murph

Simon Wyndham · November 28th, 2004, 03:39 PM

No, I was just wondering Chris because you had a website advertising HD production. What camera are you using for HD at the moment?

Simon Wyndham · November 28th, 2004, 03:40 PM

Robin, Creative are taking pre-orders. So are Mitcorp. They had sold 10 when I was there a few weeks back. But it's still not available yet in physical form to take home.

Heath McKnight · November 28th, 2004, 06:23 PM

I'm gonna buy an FX1 because the final video quality is the same as the Z1. I guess if there were even more cine gamma controls (like on the DVX100A), that would be reason to buy one.

As my buddy and DV Info contributor Jon Fordham once told me, he had to buy a DV camera. The price difference between the VX2000 and PD-150 was, I think, $1000. Ultimately, the picture was too similar, so he saved the money and bought the VX2000.

heath

Darrell Essex · November 28th, 2004, 07:42 PM

b&h photoandvideo have the z1 listed for pre-order at $4900.
sony style has it listed at $5900.
it may be a typo.

Darrell Essex · November 28th, 2004, 07:49 PM

correction: thats at sony bussiness solutions
http://bssc.sel.sony.com/Professional/webapp/SubCategory?m=0&p=2&sp=141&sm=0&s=&cpos=

Christopher C. Murphy · November 30th, 2004, 09:32 AM

Simon, I'm renting and/or borrowing cameras until I get the Z1. (I put that on my profile here, but obviously I don't have it yet.) Also, I am in pre-production on a project....don't need a camera right now for it.

Barry Green · November 30th, 2004, 11:32 PM

Sony's site does list it at $5946.

The camera's not out yet. They do have the right to change the price any time they feel like it, for any reason.

Keep in mind that the DVX was originally announced at $3495, but Panasonic raised the MSRP to $3795 before the first one was ever produced. It's entirely possible that Sony announced $4900, and we all said "wow, that's cheaper than I thought it'd be", and so they went back and revised the number.

I believe it's Douglas Spotted Eagle who says that Sony has insisted that no dealers take pre-orders. Perhaps pricing revisions are one reason why?

In any case, only Sony can answer this question. And they certainly could have raised the price from the initially-annouced $4900. I hope they haven't, but it's possible.

November 27th, 2004, 09:27 PM	#16
Ken Hodson Trustee Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Vancouver BC Canada Posts: 1,315	I think the state of the US dollar will play a big roll in the final price for the cam in the United States . My Canadian dollar has dramaticaly increased against the US buck lately not because our dollar is so strong, but because the US dollar is falling huge in global standings. It could hit $6000 msp or more if the trend continues. __________________ Damnit Jim, I'm a film maker not a sysytems tech.

November 27th, 2004, 10:29 PM	#17
Lynne Whelden Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: williamsport, pa Posts: 604	$$$$$$$$$$$$ My understanding is that goods manufactured in Europe and imported into the US will increase in price. However, I don't think the same thing is happening with the dollar in Japan so the camera we're all interested in should remain stable in price.

November 28th, 2004, 09:36 AM	#18
Christopher C. Murphy Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,707	If B&H or any reseller changes their price from what it is now - isn't that "bait and switch"? It is afterall a price displayed for an item they are not carrying yet, so by posting the price they are literally posting "bait". We can't get it now, so we're fishing for their item. Murph __________________ Christopher C. Murphy Director, Producer, Writer

November 28th, 2004, 01:21 PM	#20
Darrell Essex Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: kelseyville, ca Posts: 123	BestBuy Best Buy has the camera for $3329 http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1096380765286&skuId=6905771&productCategoryId=cat15195&type=product __________________ darrell

November 28th, 2004, 01:51 PM	#23
Christopher C. Murphy Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,707	Simon, I have budgeted money to purchase the Z1 as soon as its available. Also, I always forget to update my profiles everywhere so I decided to do it when I thought of it. No big thing as far as I can see, but if it bothers you I can remove it? Murph __________________ Christopher C. Murphy Director, Producer, Writer

November 28th, 2004, 11:34 AM	#19
Simon Wyndham Trustee Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Malvern UK Posts: 1,931	Chris, this might seem like a reeeeeeally dumb question. But how come you have a Z1 listed as part of your equipment when it isn't even out yet?

November 28th, 2004, 01:29 PM	#21
Simon Wyndham Trustee Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Malvern UK Posts: 1,931	Umm yes, but it's not out yet. The FX1 is, but the Z1 is not.

November 28th, 2004, 01:47 PM	#22
Robin Davies-Rollinson Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Gwaelod-y-garth, Cardiff, CYMRU/WALES Posts: 1,215	Simon, Creative Video are taking orders for the Z1 and are asking £4106.63 inc VAT. Robin

November 28th, 2004, 03:39 PM	#24
Simon Wyndham Trustee Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Malvern UK Posts: 1,931	No, I was just wondering Chris because you had a website advertising HD production. What camera are you using for HD at the moment?

November 28th, 2004, 03:40 PM	#25
Simon Wyndham Trustee Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Malvern UK Posts: 1,931	Robin, Creative are taking pre-orders. So are Mitcorp. They had sold 10 when I was there a few weeks back. But it's still not available yet in physical form to take home.

November 28th, 2004, 06:23 PM	#26
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	I'm gonna buy an FX1 because the final video quality is the same as the Z1. I guess if there were even more cine gamma controls (like on the DVX100A), that would be reason to buy one. As my buddy and DV Info contributor Jon Fordham once told me, he had to buy a DV camera. The price difference between the VX2000 and PD-150 was, I think, $1000. Ultimately, the picture was too similar, so he saved the money and bought the VX2000. heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

November 28th, 2004, 07:42 PM	#27
Darrell Essex Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: kelseyville, ca Posts: 123	Price of the Z1 b&h photoandvideo have the z1 listed for pre-order at $4900. sony style has it listed at $5900. it may be a typo. __________________ darrell

November 28th, 2004, 07:49 PM	#28
Darrell Essex Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: kelseyville, ca Posts: 123	the price of the hvr-z1j correction: thats at sony bussiness solutions http://bssc.sel.sony.com/Professional/webapp/SubCategory?m=0&p=2&sp=141&sm=0&s=&cpos= __________________ darrell

November 30th, 2004, 09:32 AM	#29
Christopher C. Murphy Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,707	Simon, I'm renting and/or borrowing cameras until I get the Z1. (I put that on my profile here, but obviously I don't have it yet.) Also, I am in pre-production on a project....don't need a camera right now for it. __________________ Christopher C. Murphy Director, Producer, Writer

November 30th, 2004, 11:32 PM	#30
Barry Green Barry Wan Kenobi Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,863	Sony's site does list it at $5946. The camera's not out yet. They do have the right to change the price any time they feel like it, for any reason. Keep in mind that the DVX was originally announced at $3495, but Panasonic raised the MSRP to $3795 before the first one was ever produced. It's entirely possible that Sony announced $4900, and we all said "wow, that's cheaper than I thought it'd be", and so they went back and revised the number. I believe it's Douglas Spotted Eagle who says that Sony has insisted that no dealers take pre-orders. Perhaps pricing revisions are one reason why? In any case, only Sony can answer this question. And they certainly could have raised the price from the initially-annouced $4900. I hope they haven't, but it's possible.