HDR-FX1/Final Cut Pro HD/DecklinkHD Testing report at DVinfo.net

Kaku Ito · October 27th, 2004, 05:09 AM

I was capturing the footage I shot with HDR-FX1 with LumiereHD version 1.2 and posted on the ftp server here, but I could not edit on Final Cut Pro HD since Version 1.2 of LumiereHD is not properly demultiplextising the m2t files.

I thought I was goona wait until LumiereHD gets updated or Final Cut Pro HD itself become compatible, but my worker, Mitsuhiro Okuda found a software on the web which could convert m2t file into quicktime movie with various codecs.

http://www.alfanet.it/squared5/default.html

Although there are some problems like the video and audio don't sync good and the frame skips, you can test the work flow of capturing and editing in another codec, most importantly to me, convert the footage in Blackmagic's DecklinkHD codec and edit. With the few flaws, this Squared5 software converts m2t files directly to DecklinkHD uncompressed 8bit HD file. Then I can bring it in to Final Cut Pro HD and playback in realtime. I have to remind you, that this is converted to uncompressed file. It might sound to you that why umcompressed since the original footage is in compressed format, but if you upconvert the file to uncompressed and apply effects and do adjusting, you will appreciate the extra depth and the mostly importantly, DecklinkHD will let you work realtime in most functions.

Mark Kubat · October 27th, 2004, 05:24 AM

using that app that I posted a link to the other day? CapDVHS? it should allow pc capture of m2t over firewire....? know you're busy.... a lot of us here are pc people and want to know if there's a way NOW for us to capture as opposed to having to wait for some software upgrade...

thanks - your footage is tremendous - any bike footage coming?

Kaku Ito · October 27th, 2004, 06:17 AM

Mark, sorry, our business first.
Our business let me provide all of you here whatever I'm providing, so main purpose, make this HDR-FX1 work with MacOS is most important to us.
That is why Macintosh test result breaks out ealier from us.

Our business has to be going to continue the contribution here.
Please understand.

Donal Briard · October 27th, 2004, 08:32 AM

Kaku, there's just one thing with Mpeg Streamclip, though: after demuxing, the interlace artifacts becomes part of the footage. There's no longer a way to blend fields or whatever.

Kaku Ito · October 27th, 2004, 08:37 AM

Donal,

Thank you very much for your information. I'm also looking into HDpartner.
I was looking at the website, but there's no demo version. Do you know what kind of reputation it has?

Graeme Nattress · October 28th, 2004, 08:07 PM

I'm converting your m2t to Decklink here, viewing through HD SDI to HDLink to 23" cinema display. It's a good way to view HD - you see every little detail. Thanks for making the footage available to us so that we can see what it looks like. I'm trying out Film Effects to see what it looks like compared to the built in 24p mode, which, to me, seems rather too juddery.

Graeme

Kaku Ito · October 29th, 2004, 12:10 AM

I'm glad you find it useful. Do you mean your are watching as Decklink desktop function? Or using something to convert?

Graeme Nattress · October 29th, 2004, 06:57 AM

I'm outputting HD SDI out of the decklink, and using an HDLink to convert the HD SDI to DVI, and I've plugged a 23" Cinema Display into the HDLink. This gives a much superior HD picture than just plugging the display into your mac's graphics card. I downloaded some more of your owkr so I'll be able to comment better later today. I did apply G Film to one of the clips, and the end result was very filmic indeed, much nicer than the in-built 24p effect. In this situation the video grain helps, rather than hinders the look.

Graeme

Kaku Ito · October 29th, 2004, 09:01 AM

Ah, I missed the magic word HDLink. Great stuff.

October 27th, 2004, 05:09 AM	#1
Kaku Ito Trustee Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo Posts: 1,382	HDR-FX1/Final Cut Pro HD/DecklinkHD Testing report I was capturing the footage I shot with HDR-FX1 with LumiereHD version 1.2 and posted on the ftp server here, but I could not edit on Final Cut Pro HD since Version 1.2 of LumiereHD is not properly demultiplextising the m2t files. I thought I was goona wait until LumiereHD gets updated or Final Cut Pro HD itself become compatible, but my worker, Mitsuhiro Okuda found a software on the web which could convert m2t file into quicktime movie with various codecs. http://www.alfanet.it/squared5/default.html Although there are some problems like the video and audio don't sync good and the frame skips, you can test the work flow of capturing and editing in another codec, most importantly to me, convert the footage in Blackmagic's DecklinkHD codec and edit. With the few flaws, this Squared5 software converts m2t files directly to DecklinkHD uncompressed 8bit HD file. Then I can bring it in to Final Cut Pro HD and playback in realtime. I have to remind you, that this is converted to uncompressed file. It might sound to you that why umcompressed since the original footage is in compressed format, but if you upconvert the file to uncompressed and apply effects and do adjusting, you will appreciate the extra depth and the mostly importantly, DecklinkHD will let you work realtime in most functions.

October 27th, 2004, 05:24 AM	#2
Mark Kubat Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 375	Kaku, can you confirm if pc capture works... using that app that I posted a link to the other day? CapDVHS? it should allow pc capture of m2t over firewire....? know you're busy.... a lot of us here are pc people and want to know if there's a way NOW for us to capture as opposed to having to wait for some software upgrade... thanks - your footage is tremendous - any bike footage coming?

October 28th, 2004, 08:07 PM	#6
Graeme Nattress RED Problem Solver Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 1,365	I'm converting your m2t to Decklink here, viewing through HD SDI to HDLink to 23" cinema display. It's a good way to view HD - you see every little detail. Thanks for making the footage available to us so that we can see what it looks like. I'm trying out Film Effects to see what it looks like compared to the built in 24p mode, which, to me, seems rather too juddery. Graeme __________________ www.nattress.com - filters for FCP

October 29th, 2004, 06:57 AM	#8
Graeme Nattress RED Problem Solver Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 1,365	I'm outputting HD SDI out of the decklink, and using an HDLink to convert the HD SDI to DVI, and I've plugged a 23" Cinema Display into the HDLink. This gives a much superior HD picture than just plugging the display into your mac's graphics card. I downloaded some more of your owkr so I'll be able to comment better later today. I did apply G Film to one of the clips, and the end result was very filmic indeed, much nicer than the in-built 24p effect. In this situation the video grain helps, rather than hinders the look. Graeme __________________ www.nattress.com - filters for FCP

October 27th, 2004, 06:17 AM	#3
Kaku Ito Trustee Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo Posts: 1,382	Mark, sorry, our business first. Our business let me provide all of you here whatever I'm providing, so main purpose, make this HDR-FX1 work with MacOS is most important to us. That is why Macintosh test result breaks out ealier from us. Our business has to be going to continue the contribution here. Please understand.

October 27th, 2004, 08:32 AM	#4
Donal Briard Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 43	Kaku, there's just one thing with Mpeg Streamclip, though: after demuxing, the interlace artifacts becomes part of the footage. There's no longer a way to blend fields or whatever.

October 27th, 2004, 08:37 AM	#5
Kaku Ito Trustee Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo Posts: 1,382	Donal, Thank you very much for your information. I'm also looking into HDpartner. I was looking at the website, but there's no demo version. Do you know what kind of reputation it has?

October 29th, 2004, 12:10 AM	#7
Kaku Ito Trustee Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo Posts: 1,382	I'm glad you find it useful. Do you mean your are watching as Decklink desktop function? Or using something to convert?

October 29th, 2004, 09:01 AM	#9
Kaku Ito Trustee Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo Posts: 1,382	Ah, I missed the magic word HDLink. Great stuff.