Wide angle lens at DVinfo.net

Ricardo Renaldi · October 6th, 2004, 08:50 AM

Hi folks,

Could anyone recommend a good wide angle lens for this camera? I'm planning to pre-order the FX1 and a WA is necessariy for my work.
thanks in advance.

Ric

Boyd Ostroff · October 6th, 2004, 09:07 AM

Somewhere I read that Sony is coming out with a new high-res wide angle adaptor specifically for this camera. Since people don't have their hands on production model cameras yet I don't see how they could really recommend an existing product.

Ricardo Renaldi · October 6th, 2004, 09:19 AM

Thanks for your answer. I thought that a good 72 mm WA would fit. Is not the case?

cheers

Ric

Boyd Ostroff · October 6th, 2004, 09:59 AM

I think it will be more of a resolution issue than a thread size issue. That's why Sony said they would be offering a new lens. By way of example, there have been some unhappy buyers of the 37mm Century .5x wide adaptor for the PDX-10. When they complained Century responded that this adaptor was really designed for lower quality single chip consumer cameras where its flaws wouldn't be so noticeable.

Like I said, nobody will know for sure until they have a chance to shoot some tests on a production model camera. But with a 72mm thread size I'll bet this is going to be pretty expensive if you want HD quality.

Scott Aston · October 6th, 2004, 01:29 PM

Isn't the Sony FX1 pretty wide with it's stock 12X lens?

Ricardo Renaldi · October 6th, 2004, 01:36 PM

I guess so, but I can not find any data about it.
Anyone?

Ric

Barry Green · October 6th, 2004, 06:16 PM

Its stock lens has the same wide-angle field of view as the DVX's, so it's about equivalent to a 32.5mm lens in 35mm still photography.

Lynne Whelden · October 6th, 2004, 08:28 PM

Sony's .8X custom WA zoom-thru is $550

Chris Hurd · October 6th, 2004, 09:29 PM

To me the lens is pretty wide already. Century Optics will have HD-quality WA adapters for it as well, and most likely they'll be priced not all that much higher than their current SD offerings of the same diameter (so I've heard).

Jos Svendsen · October 8th, 2004, 07:36 AM

There will be a new Sony wideangle conversion lens for the FX. In in theis assessory plan for the FX-1 together with a shoulde pad and a filter set.

Ricardo Renaldi · October 8th, 2004, 11:28 AM

The main problem with Sony lenses is that they are always more expensive than other alternative brands. After all, Sony do not make the lenses, right?

How much would you estimate wil be the cost of such a lens?

Ric

Carlos E. Martinez · October 8th, 2004, 01:30 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Ricardo Renaldi : The main problem with Sony lenses is that they are always more expensive than other alternative brands. After a Sony do not make the lenses, right?

How much would you estimate wil be the cost of such a lens?

-->>>

As long as the filter is also Zeiss, as the main lens, it should be worth it. But only up to a point.

Carlos

Boyd Ostroff · October 8th, 2004, 03:03 PM

At least with regard to their less expensive cameras, I have seen speculation that the use of the Zeiss name is just licensed by Sony. To be more specific, the new HC-1000 has CCD's and optics that appear to exactly match the TRV-950, but the lens is now branded as Zeiss. According to the review at Camcorderinfo, Zeiss refused to confirm that they actually manufactured the lens. I believe this is similar to Panasonic's use of the Leica name.

Donal Briard · October 10th, 2004, 04:06 PM

The Sony lens will be called:

VCL-HG0672 High Grade Wide Angle Lens

It will launch at the same time as the HDR-FX1/HDR-FX1E (50i)/HVR-Z1 (Pro model)

Ricardo Renaldi · October 10th, 2004, 05:56 PM

Excuse my ignorance, but I'm lost here:
You mention the model FX1E as 50i. Does it means that the PAL model will work in 50 interlaced when in HD mode instead of 60i?

Ric

October 6th, 2004, 08:50 AM	#1
Ricardo Renaldi Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina Posts: 40	Wide angle lens Hi folks, Could anyone recommend a good wide angle lens for this camera? I'm planning to pre-order the FX1 and a WA is necessariy for my work. thanks in advance. Ric

October 6th, 2004, 09:19 AM	#3
Ricardo Renaldi Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina Posts: 40	72? Thanks for your answer. I thought that a good 72 mm WA would fit. Is not the case? cheers Ric

October 6th, 2004, 01:29 PM	#5
Scott Aston Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 75	Isn't the Sony FX1 pretty wide with it's stock 12X lens? __________________ Scott Aston Eyecon Pictures, Inc.

October 6th, 2004, 01:36 PM	#6
Ricardo Renaldi Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina Posts: 40	Wide stock lens I guess so, but I can not find any data about it. Anyone? Ric

October 6th, 2004, 09:29 PM	#9
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	To me the lens is pretty wide already. Century Optics will have HD-quality WA adapters for it as well, and most likely they'll be priced not all that much higher than their current SD offerings of the same diameter (so I've heard). __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

October 6th, 2004, 09:07 AM	#2
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	Somewhere I read that Sony is coming out with a new high-res wide angle adaptor specifically for this camera. Since people don't have their hands on production model cameras yet I don't see how they could really recommend an existing product.

October 6th, 2004, 09:59 AM	#4
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	I think it will be more of a resolution issue than a thread size issue. That's why Sony said they would be offering a new lens. By way of example, there have been some unhappy buyers of the 37mm Century .5x wide adaptor for the PDX-10. When they complained Century responded that this adaptor was really designed for lower quality single chip consumer cameras where its flaws wouldn't be so noticeable. Like I said, nobody will know for sure until they have a chance to shoot some tests on a production model camera. But with a 72mm thread size I'll bet this is going to be pretty expensive if you want HD quality.

October 6th, 2004, 06:16 PM	#7
Barry Green Barry Wan Kenobi Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,863	Its stock lens has the same wide-angle field of view as the DVX's, so it's about equivalent to a 32.5mm lens in 35mm still photography.

October 6th, 2004, 08:28 PM	#8
Lynne Whelden Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: williamsport, pa Posts: 604	Sony's .8X custom WA zoom-thru is $550

October 8th, 2004, 07:36 AM	#10
Jos Svendsen Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 221	There will be a new Sony wideangle conversion lens for the FX. In in theis assessory plan for the FX-1 together with a shoulde pad and a filter set. __________________ ---------------------------- 12c41 JOS. Svendsen

October 8th, 2004, 11:28 AM	#11
Ricardo Renaldi Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina Posts: 40	price The main problem with Sony lenses is that they are always more expensive than other alternative brands. After all, Sony do not make the lenses, right? How much would you estimate wil be the cost of such a lens? Ric

October 8th, 2004, 01:30 PM	#12
Carlos E. Martinez Trustee Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brasil Posts: 1,138	Re: price <<<-- Originally posted by Ricardo Renaldi : The main problem with Sony lenses is that they are always more expensive than other alternative brands. After a Sony do not make the lenses, right? How much would you estimate wil be the cost of such a lens? -->>> As long as the filter is also Zeiss, as the main lens, it should be worth it. But only up to a point. Carlos

October 8th, 2004, 03:03 PM	#13
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	At least with regard to their less expensive cameras, I have seen speculation that the use of the Zeiss name is just licensed by Sony. To be more specific, the new HC-1000 has CCD's and optics that appear to exactly match the TRV-950, but the lens is now branded as Zeiss. According to the review at Camcorderinfo, Zeiss refused to confirm that they actually manufactured the lens. I believe this is similar to Panasonic's use of the Leica name.

October 10th, 2004, 04:06 PM	#14
Donal Briard Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 43	The Sony lens will be called: VCL-HG0672 High Grade Wide Angle Lens It will launch at the same time as the HDR-FX1/HDR-FX1E (50i)/HVR-Z1 (Pro model)

October 10th, 2004, 05:56 PM	#15
Ricardo Renaldi Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina Posts: 40	50!? Excuse my ignorance, but I'm lost here: You mention the model FX1E as 50i. Does it means that the PAL model will work in 50 interlaced when in HD mode instead of 60i? Ric