Sony HDR-FX1 Ginza Seminar Report at DVinfo.net

Chosei Funahara · September 24th, 2004, 08:29 AM

My colleague had participated in "Ginza seminar" of the HDV the other day.

Report from Japan:

The image that a large-scale plasma monitor for HD reproduced firmly conquered the weak point of MPEG2-TS by an image quality high as it was not possible to show with past DV, and was surprised at the image without failure at all for a moment also on the screen where a lot of movements existed to be finished.
I think that it turns in the one left as a record image.

However, it seems not to be suitable for a work that is too real, away from the reality.

Paul Henley · September 24th, 2004, 08:46 AM

Huh?

Chosei Funahara · September 24th, 2004, 08:51 AM

Sony had held HDR-FX1 seminar this week and this week end. Peaole were crazy about new Sony product; rushed to register, I send 3 colleagues to the seminar. I'm in US and working current DVX projects and couldn't attend it.

John Jay · September 24th, 2004, 09:10 AM

Hello Chosei

If I understand you correctly are you saying that -->

the pictures are good even when there is a lot of motion in the scene?

Chosei Funahara · September 24th, 2004, 09:25 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by John Jay : Hello Chosei

If I understand you correctly are you saying that -->

the pictures are good even when there is a lot of motion in the scene? -->>>
I got reports from my friend and he's saying that real fast camera move or shooting at real fast moving objects are clear enough to see without breaking up on MPEG-TS. The MPEG2 had weakness as you know.
I'll get more reports from my guys.

Heath McKnight · September 24th, 2004, 09:34 AM

I think he's saying that, like digital video (and the JVC HDV cameras), fast pans and movements may be a bad thing. But not quite as bad...

heath

Gary McClurg · September 24th, 2004, 10:54 AM

Makes me feel better that I wasn't the only one who was confused. So hopefully things are looking up with this camea.

Michael Struthers · September 24th, 2004, 11:19 AM

"may not be suitable for a work that is too real, away from the reality."

It looks like video and not film? I can accept that.

Chosei Funahara · September 24th, 2004, 11:36 AM

Some people thought FX-1 is the best consumer camera at present. Test pictures are pretty decent but painful picture for example: Waterfall water drops, close up shots of waves of the ocean and general view of the ocean (wide and close up, both).
Allover MPEG picture that is tested and taken was beautiful.

Comparison: BS digital broadcasting in Japan is assumed to be 100%, FX1fs picture quality is about 80%.
However, the block noises are none at all.
Also s/n, gain up is very good, even 9db up, there is no noise.
Handling FX-1: itfs big and heavy, but if you use shoulder-pod, itfs will be easy and new 16:9 LCD monitor is very good and zoom in focus feature is very helpful. One negative feature is audio recoding level is very difficult control.

Anyway I got so much information, I canft translate everything, I think you guys better wait until real reporter will publish soon.
The responses are good, for the price, itfll be a winner.

Chosei Funahara · September 24th, 2004, 11:48 AM

one guy already posted:

http://www.geocities.jp/gyvsvx/HDRFX1.html

He did not have 1080i NLE, so you can't see real 1080i movement, but interesting.
If you are thinking buy new SD camera, you should buy FX-1. They say 24p (interlace) like feature on HD is good also.

Paul Henley · September 24th, 2004, 11:51 AM

Thanks Chosei,

Very encouraging report. It seems like this camera may very well raise the bar in prosumer video performance.

September 24th, 2004, 08:29 AM	#1
Chosei Funahara Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: N.Y.C. USA / Kobe, JAPAN / Posts: 49	Sony HDR-FX1 Ginza Seminar Report My colleague had participated in "Ginza seminar" of the HDV the other day. Report from Japan: The image that a large-scale plasma monitor for HD reproduced firmly conquered the weak point of MPEG2-TS by an image quality high as it was not possible to show with past DV, and was surprised at the image without failure at all for a moment also on the screen where a lot of movements existed to be finished. I think that it turns in the one left as a record image. However, it seems not to be suitable for a work that is too real, away from the reality.

September 24th, 2004, 08:46 AM	#2
Paul Henley New Boot Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: APO, AP (Korea) Posts: 19	Huh? __________________ The beatings will continue until morale improves.

September 24th, 2004, 08:51 AM	#3
Chosei Funahara Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: N.Y.C. USA / Kobe, JAPAN / Posts: 49	Sony HDR-FX1 Ginza Seminar Report Sony had held HDR-FX1 seminar this week and this week end. Peaole were crazy about new Sony product; rushed to register, I send 3 colleagues to the seminar. I'm in US and working current DVX projects and couldn't attend it.

September 24th, 2004, 09:10 AM	#4
John Jay Major Player Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: US & THEM Posts: 827	Hello Chosei If I understand you correctly are you saying that --> the pictures are good even when there is a lot of motion in the scene? __________________ John Jay Beware *PLUGGER-BYTES*

September 24th, 2004, 09:34 AM	#6
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	I think he's saying that, like digital video (and the JVC HDV cameras), fast pans and movements may be a bad thing. But not quite as bad... heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

September 24th, 2004, 09:25 AM	#5
Chosei Funahara Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: N.Y.C. USA / Kobe, JAPAN / Posts: 49	<<<-- Originally posted by John Jay : Hello Chosei If I understand you correctly are you saying that --> the pictures are good even when there is a lot of motion in the scene? -->>> I got reports from my friend and he's saying that real fast camera move or shooting at real fast moving objects are clear enough to see without breaking up on MPEG-TS. The MPEG2 had weakness as you know. I'll get more reports from my guys.

September 24th, 2004, 10:54 AM	#7
Gary McClurg Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Springfield, MO, USA Posts: 389	Makes me feel better that I wasn't the only one who was confused. So hopefully things are looking up with this camea.

September 24th, 2004, 11:19 AM	#8
Michael Struthers Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: SF, Ca Posts: 421	"may not be suitable for a work that is too real, away from the reality." It looks like video and not film? I can accept that. __________________ Michael Struthers www.buzzdigital.com

September 24th, 2004, 11:36 AM	#9
Chosei Funahara Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: N.Y.C. USA / Kobe, JAPAN / Posts: 49	more report Some people thought FX-1 is the best consumer camera at present. Test pictures are pretty decent but painful picture for example: Waterfall water drops, close up shots of waves of the ocean and general view of the ocean (wide and close up, both). Allover MPEG picture that is tested and taken was beautiful. Comparison: BS digital broadcasting in Japan is assumed to be 100%, FX1fs picture quality is about 80%. However, the block noises are none at all. Also s/n, gain up is very good, even 9db up, there is no noise. Handling FX-1: itfs big and heavy, but if you use shoulder-pod, itfs will be easy and new 16:9 LCD monitor is very good and zoom in focus feature is very helpful. One negative feature is audio recoding level is very difficult control. Anyway I got so much information, I canft translate everything, I think you guys better wait until real reporter will publish soon. The responses are good, for the price, itfll be a winner.

September 24th, 2004, 11:48 AM	#10
Chosei Funahara Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: N.Y.C. USA / Kobe, JAPAN / Posts: 49	comparison test bet. GY-DV300 and FX-1 one guy already posted: http://www.geocities.jp/gyvsvx/HDRFX1.html He did not have 1080i NLE, so you can't see real 1080i movement, but interesting. If you are thinking buy new SD camera, you should buy FX-1. They say 24p (interlace) like feature on HD is good also.

September 24th, 2004, 11:51 AM	#11
Paul Henley New Boot Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: APO, AP (Korea) Posts: 19	Thanks Chosei, Very encouraging report. It seems like this camera may very well raise the bar in prosumer video performance. __________________ The beatings will continue until morale improves.