White Balancement in different lights situations with the z1.... at DVinfo.net

Marcus Martell · February 7th, 2009, 04:47 AM

Hi everybody,
i wanted 2 ask u more info about the inner preset of the white balancement and eventually the tricks of the white cards.Thank you guys

Dugi Barr · February 9th, 2009, 02:46 PM

Hi Marcus.

I, for one, am having trouble understanding your question.
What more info would you like about WB preset?
Tricks of the white cards?
Do you mean using warmer or cooler tints on the WB cards to achieve different looks?
Want to try the question another way?
Dugi.

Rick J. Johnson · February 13th, 2009, 03:49 AM

Yes, that was fairly vague…

Anyhow here’s a tip for ya that I use. Never use the cams internal preset unless you absolutely need to in the unlikely event it happens to look better than the following;-)
Set up White balance on preset (A) with a white card (I use very clean ordinary white printing paper, 8x11 sheets) And set preset (B) with an 18% grey card. Holy moly watch out, 9 times out of 10 the colors from preset B will curl your toes!, depending on your lighting of course. I use this set up on my Z1 and FX.

Marcus Martell · February 18th, 2009, 11:01 AM

Hi guys i have to say i'm sorry for my bad english!LOL
I wanted to ask you when you use the preset for the inner locations....I usually make the WB on every light change....

Tom Hardwick · February 18th, 2009, 11:13 AM

The real beauty of the Z1 over the FX1 is the way you can set up the assign buttons to give you fine tuning to the white balance. I set the preset to outdoor, then have button 5 go cooler and button 6 warmer.

Now all the time you're filming you have daylight w/bal set. If your subjects move into the shade you can click button 6 once or twice. As you step indoors you can push button 5 to warm the colour balance. If you push it 5 times you'll be in the artificial w/bal setting (button 5, 5x, ok? - easy to remember).

Wonderful! I use it all the time, and it's fast!

tom.

Gareth Watkins · February 19th, 2009, 03:57 PM

Agree totally with Tom here, I'd be lost without this great feature... I so often just tweek the colour until I like the way it looks...it's like instant colour grading in camera...

It also helps give nice sun sets and richer scenics without colour cards...

Cheers
Gareth

Marcus Martell · February 20th, 2009, 09:14 AM

Thank you guys, but could u drive me ina step by step workflow?Cause i'm newbie with it....
Irememberi asked this in another 3d.....
So i have to go on the PP menu;then?

Sorry guys and thank you 4 being so patient!
p.S:correct me when i wrong with my strange english!

Boyd Ostroff · February 20th, 2009, 06:18 PM

Hi Marcus. I think we covered these questions in this thread: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/sony-hvr-...uttons-z1.html

Marcus Martell · February 21st, 2009, 09:10 AM

Thank u Boyd...i got it!I

Marcus Martell · February 21st, 2009, 10:54 AM

Why in HD mode this camera losesa lot of light sensivity?

Tom Hardwick · February 21st, 2009, 11:20 AM

The camera isn't less sensitive to light in the HDV mode. It's less sensitive than an SD camera such as the PD170, but that camera has chips with a bigger surface area and chips with fewer pixels on them.

February 7th, 2009, 04:47 AM	#1
Marcus Martell Trustee Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: spain Posts: 1,202	White Balancement in different lights situations with the z1.... Hi everybody, i wanted 2 ask u more info about the inner preset of the white balancement and eventually the tricks of the white cards.Thank you guys

February 21st, 2009, 10:54 AM	#10
Marcus Martell Trustee Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: spain Posts: 1,202	Hd Why in HD mode this camera losesa lot of light sensivity?

February 9th, 2009, 02:46 PM	#2
Dugi Barr Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Esher, Surrey Posts: 89	Hi Marcus. I, for one, am having trouble understanding your question. What more info would you like about WB preset? Tricks of the white cards? Do you mean using warmer or cooler tints on the WB cards to achieve different looks? Want to try the question another way? Dugi.

February 13th, 2009, 03:49 AM	#3
Rick J. Johnson New Boot Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Vacaville Ca Posts: 11	Yes, that was fairly vague… Anyhow here’s a tip for ya that I use. Never use the cams internal preset unless you absolutely need to in the unlikely event it happens to look better than the following;-) Set up White balance on preset (A) with a white card (I use very clean ordinary white printing paper, 8x11 sheets) And set preset (B) with an 18% grey card. Holy moly watch out, 9 times out of 10 the colors from preset B will curl your toes!, depending on your lighting of course. I use this set up on my Z1 and FX.

February 18th, 2009, 11:01 AM	#4
Marcus Martell Trustee Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: spain Posts: 1,202	Hi guys i have to say i'm sorry for my bad english!LOL I wanted to ask you when you use the preset for the inner locations....I usually make the WB on every light change....

February 18th, 2009, 11:13 AM	#5
Tom Hardwick Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Billericay, England UK Posts: 4,711	The real beauty of the Z1 over the FX1 is the way you can set up the assign buttons to give you fine tuning to the white balance. I set the preset to outdoor, then have button 5 go cooler and button 6 warmer. Now all the time you're filming you have daylight w/bal set. If your subjects move into the shade you can click button 6 once or twice. As you step indoors you can push button 5 to warm the colour balance. If you push it 5 times you'll be in the artificial w/bal setting (button 5, 5x, ok? - easy to remember). Wonderful! I use it all the time, and it's fast! tom.

February 19th, 2009, 03:57 PM	#6
Gareth Watkins Major Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: France Posts: 578	Agree totally with Tom here, I'd be lost without this great feature... I so often just tweek the colour until I like the way it looks...it's like instant colour grading in camera... It also helps give nice sun sets and richer scenics without colour cards... Cheers Gareth

February 20th, 2009, 09:14 AM	#7
Marcus Martell Trustee Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: spain Posts: 1,202	Thank you guys, but could u drive me ina step by step workflow?Cause i'm newbie with it.... Irememberi asked this in another 3d..... So i have to go on the PP menu;then? Sorry guys and thank you 4 being so patient! p.S:correct me when i wrong with my strange english!

February 20th, 2009, 06:18 PM	#8
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	Hi Marcus. I think we covered these questions in this thread: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/sony-hvr-...uttons-z1.html

February 21st, 2009, 09:10 AM	#9
Marcus Martell Trustee Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: spain Posts: 1,202	Thank u Boyd...i got it!I

February 21st, 2009, 11:20 AM	#11
Tom Hardwick Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Billericay, England UK Posts: 4,711	The camera isn't less sensitive to light in the HDV mode. It's less sensitive than an SD camera such as the PD170, but that camera has chips with a bigger surface area and chips with fewer pixels on them.