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David Slingerland · April 16th, 2008, 08:06 AM

Hello,

I do work for a company that would like to purchase a couple of new Z1. I am wondering when the new or upgrade version of the Z1 is likely the come out? The camera is several years old so.... They tried the V1 but they keep having problems with the steadyshot of the camera so the V1 is no go for the moment.

Jeremy Doyle · April 16th, 2008, 08:53 AM

It's been out for a couple months now. It's the Z7.

David Slingerland · April 16th, 2008, 09:31 AM

oops...well thank you very much..also in europe?

Dugi Barr · April 16th, 2008, 04:05 PM

Is the Z7 50i/60i switchable, like the Z1?
As far as I'm led to believe, the Z7 is not an upgrade for the Z1.
Am I wrong?

David Slingerland · April 17th, 2008, 03:22 AM

well , yeah looking at its specs I am also not inclined to believe its an upgrade, the manual lens is for instance something totally different for the users of the z1. But then the viewfinder is placed the same way as the z1.

Mathieu Ghekiere · April 17th, 2008, 09:12 AM

Nobody really knows... What do we know:
- FX1 and Z1 aren't upgraded in a long while
- Sony has brought out many new cams, including the Z7 and the EX1

It seems that the Z7 is 'sort of' an upgrade, if you go by it's name, and the same sensor size and stuff... On the other hand, it also feels different.
Personally, I don't think that Sony will bring out an upgrade to the Z1 on top of all the new camera's they have released in the recent months, it would be just too much.

Tom Hardwick · April 17th, 2008, 09:49 AM

You can indeed take the Z7 to be the Z1's replacement. Some folk though the EX1 took that spot, but the Z7 came along and it was obvious really. The EX1 and EX3 form another line altogether.

The FX7 replaced the FX1 and the V1 replaced the PD170. The A1 replaced the PDX10, which took over from the PD100.

tom.

Dugi Barr · April 17th, 2008, 02:09 PM

Is the Z7 NTSC/PAL switchable Tom?
Does the Z7 have any 'Rolling Shutter' problems, being CMOS?
Dugi.

Tom Hardwick · April 17th, 2008, 02:19 PM

My spec sheet is on the other computer so I can't answer the PAL/NTSC question, but as the Z7 supersedes the Z1 I'd be very surprised if it didn't. But then again - the Z7 has lost the most useful inbuilt mics that the Z1 has as well as having a smaller top screen so other things might well have been deleted at the same time. Not every new model improves on everything.

Yes, it must have rolling shutter effects as all CMOS cameras to date have this - it's part of the way the signal is read from the chips. You've really got to go looking for it though in my view, whereas CCD smear was something to keep you from using high shutter speeds.

tom.

David Moody · April 20th, 2008, 10:04 PM

If the FX7 replaced the FX1, then why is the FX1 still available and the FX7 discontinued?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...O=&sku=459129#

Tom Hardwick · April 21st, 2008, 01:02 AM

The FX1 has long been discontinued here in Europe David, but you can still find the last one or two on websites. It's still a very good buy in my view and I'd have trouble recommending the FX7 over and above it.

Noa Put · April 21st, 2008, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Hardwick

The FX7 replaced the FX1

Are you sure about that Tom? I always thought the fx7 was some kind of vx2100 successor? Wasn't the fx1 in size and possibilities one step up from the fx7?

I'm still hoping that Sony will fill the gap with a new cam that will go between the fx7 and the ex1, they made the hvr-hd1000 which is actually a step below the fx7 and then you have the ex1 and ex3 which are way above the fx7.
I would be happy with a EX0,5 :)

Panasonic is coming with their AG-HMC150 which is supposed to replace the DVX100, hopefully Sony will bring out a new model matching this one in the price categorie of the Canon xh-a1.

Boyd Ostroff · April 21st, 2008, 03:07 PM

Reports of the FX-1's demise continue to be premature. It's still listed as "in stock" on Sony's own website: http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/...uctId=11038608

But the FX-7 is not...

Robert Bec · April 24th, 2008, 01:14 AM

The Z7 is not a replacement for the Z1 as stated by a sony rep.

I have thought about buying a Z7 but with its auto focus problem i could have lived with that using manual rolling shutter if you shoot weddings forget it the picture looks crap when it is slowed down.

Just my thought

Rob.

Brian Rhodes · April 25th, 2008, 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Bec

The Z7 is not a replacement for the Z1 as stated by a sony rep.

I have thought about buying a Z7 but with its auto focus problem i could have lived with that using manual rolling shutter if you shoot weddings forget it the picture looks crap when it is slowed down.

Just my thought

Rob.

I have the Z7 and overall think it has better picture quaility than the Z1U. plus having True progressive modes and the CF card recorder I will never go back to tape again.

I shot these clips a NAB in Vegas with the Z7 24p 48 shutter (with Marco turn off in menu the auto focus works better)

http://www.dvdaction.net/dvdaction_028.htm

April 16th, 2008, 08:06 AM	#1
David Slingerland Major Player Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Soest ,Holland Posts: 307	when is the new one coming out? Hello, I do work for a company that would like to purchase a couple of new Z1. I am wondering when the new or upgrade version of the Z1 is likely the come out? The camera is several years old so.... They tried the V1 but they keep having problems with the steadyshot of the camera so the V1 is no go for the moment. __________________ D.Slingerland director/cameraman http://www.slingerlandproductions.nl

April 16th, 2008, 09:31 AM	#3
David Slingerland Major Player Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Soest ,Holland Posts: 307	oops...well thank you very much..also in europe? __________________ D.Slingerland director/cameraman http://www.slingerlandproductions.nl

April 17th, 2008, 03:22 AM	#5
David Slingerland Major Player Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Soest ,Holland Posts: 307	well , yeah looking at its specs I am also not inclined to believe its an upgrade, the manual lens is for instance something totally different for the users of the z1. But then the viewfinder is placed the same way as the z1. __________________ D.Slingerland director/cameraman http://www.slingerlandproductions.nl

April 17th, 2008, 09:12 AM	#6
Mathieu Ghekiere Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,195	Nobody really knows... What do we know: - FX1 and Z1 aren't upgraded in a long while - Sony has brought out many new cams, including the Z7 and the EX1 It seems that the Z7 is 'sort of' an upgrade, if you go by it's name, and the same sensor size and stuff... On the other hand, it also feels different. Personally, I don't think that Sony will bring out an upgrade to the Z1 on top of all the new camera's they have released in the recent months, it would be just too much. __________________ http://productionsofthe3rdkind.com http://pr3k.com

April 16th, 2008, 08:53 AM	#2
Jeremy Doyle Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Brainerd, MN Posts: 287	It's been out for a couple months now. It's the Z7.

April 16th, 2008, 04:05 PM	#4
Dugi Barr Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Esher, Surrey Posts: 89	Is the Z7 50i/60i switchable, like the Z1? As far as I'm led to believe, the Z7 is not an upgrade for the Z1. Am I wrong?

April 17th, 2008, 09:49 AM	#7
Tom Hardwick Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Billericay, England UK Posts: 4,711	You can indeed take the Z7 to be the Z1's replacement. Some folk though the EX1 took that spot, but the Z7 came along and it was obvious really. The EX1 and EX3 form another line altogether. The FX7 replaced the FX1 and the V1 replaced the PD170. The A1 replaced the PDX10, which took over from the PD100. tom.

April 17th, 2008, 02:09 PM	#8
Dugi Barr Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Esher, Surrey Posts: 89	Is the Z7 NTSC/PAL switchable Tom? Does the Z7 have any 'Rolling Shutter' problems, being CMOS? Dugi.

April 17th, 2008, 02:19 PM	#9
Tom Hardwick Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Billericay, England UK Posts: 4,711	My spec sheet is on the other computer so I can't answer the PAL/NTSC question, but as the Z7 supersedes the Z1 I'd be very surprised if it didn't. But then again - the Z7 has lost the most useful inbuilt mics that the Z1 has as well as having a smaller top screen so other things might well have been deleted at the same time. Not every new model improves on everything. Yes, it must have rolling shutter effects as all CMOS cameras to date have this - it's part of the way the signal is read from the chips. You've really got to go looking for it though in my view, whereas CCD smear was something to keep you from using high shutter speeds. tom.

April 20th, 2008, 10:04 PM	#10
David Moody Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 86	If the FX7 replaced the FX1, then why is the FX1 still available and the FX7 discontinued? http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...O=&sku=459129#

April 21st, 2008, 01:02 AM	#11
Tom Hardwick Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Billericay, England UK Posts: 4,711	The FX1 has long been discontinued here in Europe David, but you can still find the last one or two on websites. It's still a very good buy in my view and I'd have trouble recommending the FX7 over and above it.

April 21st, 2008, 03:07 PM	#13
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	Reports of the FX-1's demise continue to be premature. It's still listed as "in stock" on Sony's own website: http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/...uctId=11038608 But the FX-7 is not...

April 24th, 2008, 01:14 AM	#14
Robert Bec Major Player Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 358	The Z7 is not a replacement for the Z1 as stated by a sony rep. I have thought about buying a Z7 but with its auto focus problem i could have lived with that using manual rolling shutter if you shoot weddings forget it the picture looks crap when it is slowed down. Just my thought Rob.