It was in the HDCP...

Steve Mullen · June 10th, 2007, 05:35 AM

The FX7/V1 design exactly follows what the last generations of Sony consumer camcorders have been. The V1 was designed and is built by the consumer group as was the Z1 before it. That's no secret to those of us who have attended Sony meetings for more than a decade.

The EX are not. You can see that the instant you look at the lens on the EX.

Makes no difference who Sony invited to "brainstorming" meetings -- such meetings are 99% PR done to make people in the USA feel they have input. If you believe you have had input to ANY Japanese company you dreaming. Hell, Sir Howard has no input into Sony. :)

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The fact the consumer group hooked up to an HD monitor only proves my point. The HDMI conection is for playback -- at home or in the studio -- to a largescreen HDTV. It was not designed for "on location monitoring" as has shown to be the case by the inability to find a cheap lightweight HD monitor with HDMI.

Clearly, however, there are tiny HD monitors, but they are very expensive and input only HD-SDI. That's because pro camcorders have no AF and MUST use an HD monitor.
But, if someone feels the need to buy and lug around a field HD monitor -- be my guest. The fact there are simpler solutions can be ignored.

Steve Mullen · June 13th, 2007, 01:07 AM

THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT
The BT-LH80W features the industry's lowest delay realized by an image processing circuit that converts interlaced into progressive signals with delay within one field; a built-in Waveform Monitor that graphically displays luminance levels from -5 to 108 IRE.

Two new focus assist functions -- Focus-in-Red and Pixel-to-Pixel Matching -- address the growing need for critical camera focusing in HD acquisition. Focus in Red displays the edges of the focused area in red when sharp focus is achieved. Pixel-to-Pixel allows the user to see an input signal pixel by pixel without any resizing, effectively confirming an image in a size equivalent to a 19" widescreen display (with a 1080/60i input signal).

The monitor is outfitted with an 800 x 450 pixel wide panel, and is compatible with multiple HD/SD formats including 1080/24PsF, 1080i, 720p, 480p and 480i.

The 12V DC-powered monitor provides a component (HD/SD) input, a composite (SD) input for easy field monitoring and a D-sub 15-pin viewfinder terminal. An HD-SDI input module will be available as an option. In high-definition mode, the unit displays 16:9 widescreen images on its native 15:9 panel. Its thin (2.6" deep), lightweight (less than 3.3 pounds).

The BT-LH80W will be available in July 2007 with an estimated suggested list price of under $3000. The optional HD-SDI input module will also be available in July 2007 at an estimated suggested list price of under $700.

Piotr Wozniacki · June 13th, 2007, 01:15 AM

Interesting - what I don't get is how "pixel-to-pixel" of 1920x1080 is possible on a 800:480 matrix...

Marcus Marchesseault · June 13th, 2007, 05:34 AM

Steve, thanks for that link. I would hope for more resolution at that price, but at least it's not just SD. It does look like they tried to address that with the focus enhancement options. At least this shows that someone is paying attention.

Piotr, I'm guessing it maps the pixels 1:1 by doing a sort of zoom just like the camera's "focus assist". That would make it show something around the middle %55 of the screen which is a good start. I tend to prefer full screen focus checking, but at least this is a good part of a solution.

June 10th, 2007, 05:35 AM	#16
Steve Mullen HDV Cinema Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 4,007	The FX7/V1 design exactly follows what the last generations of Sony consumer camcorders have been. The V1 was designed and is built by the consumer group as was the Z1 before it. That's no secret to those of us who have attended Sony meetings for more than a decade. The EX are not. You can see that the instant you look at the lens on the EX. Makes no difference who Sony invited to "brainstorming" meetings -- such meetings are 99% PR done to make people in the USA feel they have input. If you believe you have had input to ANY Japanese company you dreaming. Hell, Sir Howard has no input into Sony. :) -------- The fact the consumer group hooked up to an HD monitor only proves my point. The HDMI conection is for playback -- at home or in the studio -- to a largescreen HDTV. It was not designed for "on location monitoring" as has shown to be the case by the inability to find a cheap lightweight HD monitor with HDMI. Clearly, however, there are tiny HD monitors, but they are very expensive and input only HD-SDI. That's because pro camcorders have no AF and MUST use an HD monitor. But, if someone feels the need to buy and lug around a field HD monitor -- be my guest. The fact there are simpler solutions can be ignored. __________________ Switcher's Quick Guide to the Avid Media Composer >>> http://home.mindspring.com/~d-v-c Last edited by Douglas Spotted Eagle; June 10th, 2007 at 08:47 AM. Reason: inflammatory content

June 13th, 2007, 01:07 AM	#17
Steve Mullen HDV Cinema Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 4,007	THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT The BT-LH80W features the industry's lowest delay realized by an image processing circuit that converts interlaced into progressive signals with delay within one field; a built-in Waveform Monitor that graphically displays luminance levels from -5 to 108 IRE. Two new focus assist functions -- Focus-in-Red and Pixel-to-Pixel Matching -- address the growing need for critical camera focusing in HD acquisition. Focus in Red displays the edges of the focused area in red when sharp focus is achieved. Pixel-to-Pixel allows the user to see an input signal pixel by pixel without any resizing, effectively confirming an image in a size equivalent to a 19" widescreen display (with a 1080/60i input signal). The monitor is outfitted with an 800 x 450 pixel wide panel, and is compatible with multiple HD/SD formats including 1080/24PsF, 1080i, 720p, 480p and 480i. The 12V DC-powered monitor provides a component (HD/SD) input, a composite (SD) input for easy field monitoring and a D-sub 15-pin viewfinder terminal. An HD-SDI input module will be available as an option. In high-definition mode, the unit displays 16:9 widescreen images on its native 15:9 panel. Its thin (2.6" deep), lightweight (less than 3.3 pounds). The BT-LH80W will be available in July 2007 with an estimated suggested list price of under $3000. The optional HD-SDI input module will also be available in July 2007 at an estimated suggested list price of under $700. __________________ Switcher's Quick Guide to the Avid Media Composer >>> http://home.mindspring.com/~d-v-c

June 13th, 2007, 01:15 AM	#18
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June 13th, 2007, 05:34 AM	#19
Marcus Marchesseault Trustee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 1,961	Steve, thanks for that link. I would hope for more resolution at that price, but at least it's not just SD. It does look like they tried to address that with the focus enhancement options. At least this shows that someone is paying attention. Piotr, I'm guessing it maps the pixels 1:1 by doing a sort of zoom just like the camera's "focus assist". That would make it show something around the middle %55 of the screen which is a good start. I tend to prefer full screen focus checking, but at least this is a good part of a solution.