Sony V1U / FX7 -- various sample clips at DVinfo.net

Brian Rhodes · February 7th, 2007, 06:05 PM

HVR-V1U 24P CLIP

http://www.dvdaction.net/index_007.htm

Gerald Baillgergeau · February 26th, 2007, 11:14 AM

I got my V1 about a month ago. Last weekend i finally got a chance to get a couple of friends together and we shot a test short. No real set-ups just run & gun shots.. 5 hours tops.. Feel free to download the file "v1test".. @ tracklightent.com/movies.(please right click & download linked file) See for yourself how the V1 performs. There are some high contrast, low light grain, hand held movement & some sudo camera stabilizer shots. I figured just shooting passing cars & trees wasn't gonna be enough to see what I'd be in for when I try to do something serious. No CC was done.. the camera was set on 24pA manual mode. Footage was captured with the workflow stated in this forum.(AIC, Cinema Tools, etc) Hope to do more interior test soon..

Michael Mcintyre · March 1st, 2007, 04:28 AM

Thanks for the link! Footage looks good.

I'm surprised there hasn't been more V1U footage around but this is a great look.

Marcus Marchesseault · March 1st, 2007, 10:36 PM

That's some fancy test footage! If I didn't own a V1 myself, I wouldn't believe that clip didn't have color correction. The V1 is amazing in the way it handles saturated colors without losing detail or tinting everything oddly.

The only problem is that the footage was stretched vertically on my machine. I forced 16:9 playback and it looked fine, so it must just be a matter of the aspect flag not being set correctly by the software. I stopped the video in a several places and found compression artifacts, but they weren't noticeable during playback. I think the talk of HDV having too many compression artifacts are unfounded. The artifacts mostly happen in ways that the human eye can't perceive. Macroblocking in a single frame of a fast-moving blurred object are something I can live with. Thanks for the footage!

Robert Ducon · March 2nd, 2007, 02:55 AM

That just proved to me that HDV isn't as bad as many make it out to be. (I've shot a lot of footage on the Z1U.) Show that clip to most average joes on a TV monitor, and they'd figure it could be a clip from a real film or pro documentary-style show. The colours were fantastic, the exposure was as good as you can expect from something that frantic and hand-held, and the codec looked fine at full motion. It's hard to spot artifacts when it's playing back (which is what HDV was made for). And this was all while playing on a fast LCD computer monitor.

THEN I played it on my broadcast monitor. Mmm.. the colours were beautiful. The sharpness was great. I wouldn't have guessed it was shot with a 1/4 HDV camera, no way.

That camera pulled through very well - glad you shared! Nice camera, nice work. In that lit of conditions, it matches or beats the Z1U in my opinion. I'd buy it over the Z1U - there was far less grain in the darker areas in the stills.

Evan C. King · March 2nd, 2007, 06:32 AM

It looked really good! It had the world's fakest punches but did look really good. One question I have is since there's no cc how come some shots have a really nice punchy orange-ish colour to them and others have a colder blue cast? Was this an active choice? And how did you personally like the 24p of the camera did it seem "perfect" to you?

Gerald Baillgergeau · March 2nd, 2007, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Evan C. King

It looked really good! It had the world's fakest punches but did look really good. One question I have is since there's no cc how come some shots have a really nice punchy orange-ish colour to them and others have a colder blue cast? Was this an active choice? And how did you personally like the 24p of the camera did it seem "perfect" to you?

LOL .. We're still laughing about those punches ourselves.. As for the different coloring, I was adjusting the setting on the outdoor white balance to get warmer or cooler. As the the light conditions changed, i'd dial in different settings for experimentation sake. The 24p on the V1, to me, works beautifully. I had to get use to the sharpness & clarity of the images in 24p compared to other stuff I've shot with other SD cameras. Overall, I'm very pleased with the V1. It's not "perfect" but what camera is? There's a lot you can do to achieve a desired look. I was a little worried at first when I bought it because of all the talk of aliasing, mosaic purple edges, etc. I'm not to knowledgeable in the science & technology of HDV... I jus know what looks good & the V1 is alright with me.. Happy I took the plunge..

Nathan Pawluck · May 30th, 2007, 11:50 AM

Some footage of my town
http://www.virb.com/434568698334385/videos/11221

Alexander Browne · June 1st, 2007, 03:42 AM

good exposure control on some of those shots, shows great looking dynamic range. Have to love magic hour

Stu Holmes · June 1st, 2007, 07:12 AM

Nicely done Nathan.

Been to Salmon Arm myself, on a drive from Van to Banff.

My question: what WA lens are you using?. The "cam lying between railway tracks" shot looks particularly wideangle.

thanks

Nathan Pawluck · June 1st, 2007, 10:29 AM

i was shooting the camera with no extra Stuff (stalk). I plan on getting a Letus35 Flip Enhanced, indirails and indifocus. The footage wasn't shoot in Salmon Arm but Sexsmith alberta.

http://www.indifocus.com/
http://www.letus35.com/

Chris Hull · July 25th, 2007, 03:52 PM

some shots of some film i did around the new forest for anyone thinking of purchasing a fx-7.i dont have a web site at the moment sorry i know megaupload can be a pain but its all i can use for now
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=04OOJOVR

on another point i have used a rode stereo mike with my fx-7 and found it great far better than the on board and the volume setting never needed adjusting till last week when i filmed a village fair i always film,most was ok exept for brass and bag pipe bands, the resulting sound was terrible even reducing volume in pc crazed etc clearly i should have reduced the sound level.although last year filming with my hc-1 and a ecm-hqp1 mike the sound was great without altering the volume.below is a clip of the fair with rubbish sound clearly i must reduce volume for bands like this am i correct.chris
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NN0I6ZL2

Zsolt Gordos · July 31st, 2007, 04:31 PM

Hi, some bird clips taken in Asia.

http://files.filefront.com//;8194236;;/

http://files.filefront.com//;8194227;;/

http://files.filefront.com//;8194234;;/

Brian S. Nelson · August 8th, 2007, 04:29 PM

Here are some V1U clips of (small skittish) birds. Most were made at 60i using the 1.5X digital zoom and a 1.5X tele-converter (16x9). Some of the clips were 30p to begin with. All but one clip was scaled to 640x360 using Compressor. One clip was scaled to both 640x360 and 1280x720.

http://homepage.mac.com/bsnelson/bir...irdvideos.html

John Huebbe · August 18th, 2007, 09:06 PM

So... I finally got around to encoding a HD version of my latest video and uploading it to the web. The previous videos that I've released have all been low-rez 480x270 web quality.

You can download the video from http://www.archive.org/details/321Go...2007_S.Verdier

After shooting with the V1U's for about 5 months now, both Mark and I decided that we made the right choice. :) We had to change our shooting style just a few times (in minor ways) due to the limits of the camera (like rolling shutter), but so far it hasn't changed much going from our PD170's that we use to have.

Now the only thing I wish is a better in-car camera. A 520 line bullet cam just doesn't cut it anymore.

February 7th, 2007, 06:05 PM	#1
Brian Rhodes Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 753	Sony V1U / FX7 -- various sample clips HVR-V1U 24P CLIP http://www.dvdaction.net/index_007.htm

February 26th, 2007, 11:14 AM	#2
Gerald Baillgergeau Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Santa Monica, Ca Posts: 62	V1 real world footage I got my V1 about a month ago. Last weekend i finally got a chance to get a couple of friends together and we shot a test short. No real set-ups just run & gun shots.. 5 hours tops.. Feel free to download the file "v1test".. @ tracklightent.com/movies.(please right click & download linked file) See for yourself how the V1 performs. There are some high contrast, low light grain, hand held movement & some sudo camera stabilizer shots. I figured just shooting passing cars & trees wasn't gonna be enough to see what I'd be in for when I try to do something serious. No CC was done.. the camera was set on 24pA manual mode. Footage was captured with the workflow stated in this forum.(AIC, Cinema Tools, etc) Hope to do more interior test soon..

March 2nd, 2007, 02:55 AM	#5
Robert Ducon Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Victoria BC Posts: 400	That just proved to me that HDV isn't as bad as many make it out to be. (I've shot a lot of footage on the Z1U.) Show that clip to most average joes on a TV monitor, and they'd figure it could be a clip from a real film or pro documentary-style show. The colours were fantastic, the exposure was as good as you can expect from something that frantic and hand-held, and the codec looked fine at full motion. It's hard to spot artifacts when it's playing back (which is what HDV was made for). And this was all while playing on a fast LCD computer monitor. THEN I played it on my broadcast monitor. Mmm.. the colours were beautiful. The sharpness was great. I wouldn't have guessed it was shot with a 1/4 HDV camera, no way. That camera pulled through very well - glad you shared! Nice camera, nice work. In that lit of conditions, it matches or beats the Z1U in my opinion. I'd buy it over the Z1U - there was far less grain in the darker areas in the stills. __________________ Mac + Canon HV20

May 30th, 2007, 11:50 AM	#8
Nathan Pawluck New Boot Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Salmon Arm, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 19	Sony Hvr-V1u Footage Some footage of my town http://www.virb.com/434568698334385/videos/11221

June 1st, 2007, 10:29 AM	#11
Nathan Pawluck New Boot Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Salmon Arm, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 19	(Stalk) i was shooting the camera with no extra Stuff (stalk). I plan on getting a Letus35 Flip Enhanced, indirails and indifocus. The footage wasn't shoot in Salmon Arm but Sexsmith alberta. http://www.indifocus.com/ http://www.letus35.com/

March 1st, 2007, 04:28 AM	#3
Michael Mcintyre New Boot Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: United States Posts: 8	Thanks for the link! Footage looks good. I'm surprised there hasn't been more V1U footage around but this is a great look.

March 1st, 2007, 10:36 PM	#4
Marcus Marchesseault Trustee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 1,961	That's some fancy test footage! If I didn't own a V1 myself, I wouldn't believe that clip didn't have color correction. The V1 is amazing in the way it handles saturated colors without losing detail or tinting everything oddly. The only problem is that the footage was stretched vertically on my machine. I forced 16:9 playback and it looked fine, so it must just be a matter of the aspect flag not being set correctly by the software. I stopped the video in a several places and found compression artifacts, but they weren't noticeable during playback. I think the talk of HDV having too many compression artifacts are unfounded. The artifacts mostly happen in ways that the human eye can't perceive. Macroblocking in a single frame of a fast-moving blurred object are something I can live with. Thanks for the footage!

March 2nd, 2007, 06:32 AM	#6
Evan C. King Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 532	It looked really good! It had the world's fakest punches but did look really good. One question I have is since there's no cc how come some shots have a really nice punchy orange-ish colour to them and others have a colder blue cast? Was this an active choice? And how did you personally like the 24p of the camera did it seem "perfect" to you?

June 1st, 2007, 03:42 AM	#9
Alexander Browne New Boot Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Reading, United Kingdom Posts: 7	good exposure control on some of those shots, shows great looking dynamic range. Have to love magic hour

June 1st, 2007, 07:12 AM	#10
Stu Holmes Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Europe Posts: 844	Nicely done Nathan. Been to Salmon Arm myself, on a drive from Van to Banff. My question: what WA lens are you using?. The "cam lying between railway tracks" shot looks particularly wideangle. thanks

July 25th, 2007, 03:52 PM	#12
Chris Hull Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: yeovil uk Posts: 72	fx-7 shots and mike slip up some shots of some film i did around the new forest for anyone thinking of purchasing a fx-7.i dont have a web site at the moment sorry i know megaupload can be a pain but its all i can use for now http://www.megaupload.com/?d=04OOJOVR on another point i have used a rode stereo mike with my fx-7 and found it great far better than the on board and the volume setting never needed adjusting till last week when i filmed a village fair i always film,most was ok exept for brass and bag pipe bands, the resulting sound was terrible even reducing volume in pc crazed etc clearly i should have reduced the sound level.although last year filming with my hc-1 and a ecm-hqp1 mike the sound was great without altering the volume.below is a clip of the fair with rubbish sound clearly i must reduce volume for bands like this am i correct.chris http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NN0I6ZL2

July 31st, 2007, 04:31 PM	#13
Zsolt Gordos Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 414	Colorful birds Hi, some bird clips taken in Asia. http://files.filefront.com//;8194236;;/ http://files.filefront.com//;8194227;;/ http://files.filefront.com//;8194234;;/ __________________ Sony XDCAM EX1r, Canon 5DMkII, Røde NTG2, Røde NT1000, Røde Stereo Videomic, Sachtler DV6 SB on Gitzo 1325V, Steadicam Merlin, Omnitracker, Hackintosh 3.5Ghz Quad 8Gb RAM

August 8th, 2007, 04:29 PM	#14
Brian S. Nelson New Boot Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 24	Some more V1U birds Here are some V1U clips of (small skittish) birds. Most were made at 60i using the 1.5X digital zoom and a 1.5X tele-converter (16x9). Some of the clips were 30p to begin with. All but one clip was scaled to 640x360 using Compressor. One clip was scaled to both 640x360 and 1280x720. http://homepage.mac.com/bsnelson/bir...irdvideos.html

August 18th, 2007, 09:06 PM	#15
John Huebbe Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: St. Charles Posts: 141	V1U - Final Video - Motorsports So... I finally got around to encoding a HD version of my latest video and uploading it to the web. The previous videos that I've released have all been low-rez 480x270 web quality. You can download the video from http://www.archive.org/details/321Go...2007_S.Verdier After shooting with the V1U's for about 5 months now, both Mark and I decided that we made the right choice. :) We had to change our shooting style just a few times (in minor ways) due to the limits of the camera (like rolling shutter), but so far it hasn't changed much going from our PD170's that we use to have. Now the only thing I wish is a better in-car camera. A 520 line bullet cam just doesn't cut it anymore. __________________ - John http://www.321govideo.com