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Old December 27th, 2006, 03:32 PM   #1
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I managed to make some fast clips from my low light footage of the other day.
here are the links:

Guys playing with burning torches, no smear visible when looking at the flames:

http://www.esnips.com/doc/986cdd52-2...7-8908f48fb1a2


A Zepter neon ad with full zoom in:

http://www.esnips.com/doc/2ee0e95b-0...1-6eb6ff99d803


A low light scene of a shop entrance, quite some vivid colors even in dark:

http://www.esnips.com/doc/3597d009-4...6-6a26014bba29



This is taken of a face with zoom - quite good skin color even in very low light conditions and from far:

http://www.esnips.com/doc/699474a8-9...6-0d4e1b911aea


Finally shots of color projection over buildings:

http://www.esnips.com/doc/d7ff9d54-d...4-0d8d2bc7cbf9

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Old December 27th, 2006, 05:17 PM   #2
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I managed to make a fast clip from my low light footage of the other day. I will add some more soon.

here is the link:

http://www.esnips.com/doc/986cdd52-2...7-8908f48fb1a2
The reports of poor low light performance have been greatly exaggerated!

Nice footage Zsolt.

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Old December 27th, 2006, 05:25 PM   #3
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What types of settings did you use with this recording?

Looks pretty good for low light.
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Old December 27th, 2006, 05:50 PM   #4
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The reports of poor low light performance have been greatly exaggerated!

Nice footage Zsolt.

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Thanks Tony, some more to come. I posted the first one to illustrate the lack of the "smearing" effect. Look at the flames on the torches.
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Old December 27th, 2006, 06:09 PM   #5
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What types of settings did you use with this recording?

Looks pretty good for low light.
I created a picture profile with the following settings:

Color level -1
Color phase 0
Sharpness 3
Skintone DTL type1
skintone lvl 3
WB shift 0
Knee point: low
BLK compensation: compress
Cinematone gamma off
Cinematone color on
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Old December 27th, 2006, 06:23 PM   #6
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I created a picture profile with the following settings:
Sharpness 3
I'm not sure why you feel the need to kill so much fine detail by using 3. Loss of fine detail kind of defeats the point of HD. :)

Are you using a test chart to really see at what point EE appears? And, have you calibrated your HDTV's Sharpness correctly?

Lastly, are you using HDMI or component?
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Old December 27th, 2006, 06:46 PM   #7
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Well, I have got these settings as advice in this forum, so why not give it a try? The purpose was to avoid noise in low light.
I use HDMI and a 50 inch plasma. No test chart has been used.

Could you recommend some cool (maybe tested) settings?
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Old December 27th, 2006, 07:18 PM   #8
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Well, I have got these settings as advice in this forum, so why not give it a try? The purpose was to avoid noise in low light.
I use HDMI and a 50 inch plasma. No test chart has been used.

Could you recommend some cool (maybe tested) settings?
Its a good start Zsolt! How is this little cam on the big head? ;-)
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Old December 27th, 2006, 07:30 PM   #9
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How is this little cam on the big head? ;-)
Well, not so big head:) if you look at the German article that you had sent yesterday, they showed the V1 mounted on the same head.

My Redrockmicro M2 also has arrived, so the head soon wont be big at all!
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Old December 27th, 2006, 08:06 PM   #10
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Could you recommend some cool (maybe tested) settings?
IF I wanted softer P video, for some reason, I would use 5. Otherwise I would use 7 -- the same as for I.

If I couldn't decide, I would use 6. :)

The point is not to remove detail, but to prevent adding too much edge enhancement. So you need a chart to see where an edge appears. You can't do it based upon "advice" as its a matter of judgement on YOUR HDTV.
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Old December 27th, 2006, 08:15 PM   #11
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Well, not so big head:) if you look at the German article that you had sent yesterday, they showed the V1 mounted on the same head.

My Redrockmicro M2 also has arrived, so the head soon wont be big at all!
It is a nice head, good choice even with the carbon sticks.

Ough!! Did you see the sgpro rev2?
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Old December 27th, 2006, 08:17 PM   #12
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I saw, but Redrock had special promo, so I got the bundle together with follow focus and some other stuff with a nice Xmas price cut. So I went for that.
It is a very delicate and precise baby. Tomorrow I will try to assemble it.

errm...guess we are off topic here.
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Old December 27th, 2006, 08:20 PM   #13
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Oh well...its all about V1 clips isn't it? Xmas did some nice things,
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Old December 28th, 2006, 12:05 AM   #14
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Zsolt,

Did you purchase the shim kit for the M2? If you didn't, you will need it. I have the V1U and had to shim the rails and the camera. However, the V1U is SO MUCH better than the Z1U with the M2. The rails slide under the camera, and the M2 slides closer to the achromat (I'm talking about the V1 over the Z1).

I also like the way the V1 monitor sits. I can flip the monitor back into the body and view both zebra and peaking as a reference to my main HD monitor (I'll be posting pictures of my setup as well as video soon).

You can't go wrong with the V1 and the M2.

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Old December 28th, 2006, 05:00 AM   #15
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Zsolt,

Did you purchase the shim kit for the M2? If you didn't, you will need it.
Hi Todd, yes the shim kit is included in my bundle. Looking forward to study any info you post on the M2 matter - although I think it will require to start a new thread some place else.
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