Dear Gosh... Where Is The Footage?!!

Daniel Boswell · December 25th, 2006, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasty Jackson

Would somebody mind shooting and posting a 24p clip with the sharpness bumped down a few notches, or all the way down... or both?

-Pasty

Pasty...Here is a clip with the following settings:

24pA
Gain 6db
Iris 2.4

Tweaked Picture Profile:

Color Level -1
Phase = 0
Sharpness = 4 (turned down from 7)
Skintone DTL = Type 3
Skintone Level = 4
Knee Point = Middle
Black Stretch on
Cinetone Gamma = Type 2
"" Color = On

Sorry..another cat.

http://homepage.mac.com/epiphany2002/24p.m2t

Drew Long · December 25th, 2006, 01:47 PM

Daniel
Are you sure you shot that in 24PA?
I see combing interlace effects from when the camera is moving.

Adam Palomer · December 25th, 2006, 03:41 PM

That's a beautiful cat. Does he/she know how famous s/he’s become? I like how the camera can resolve individual hairs. The color reproduction is amazing too.

Daniel Boswell · December 25th, 2006, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drew Long

Daniel
Are you sure you shot that in 24PA?
I see combing interlace effects from when the camera is moving.

Umm yeah. It is. For sure.

Chris Medico · December 27th, 2006, 07:26 PM

OK. Here are some video clips I shot yesterday. They were all shot 1080p30.

Mode - AUTO, all picture profile settings stock

The video is FUSED with AVID Liquid so it is not re-rendered.

The walkway in the butterfly house is so narrow it was impossible to setup my tripod and not block the path so I have to apologize if the video is a little shaky again.

I'll likely return when its not so busy and try again with the tripod.

Birds ~F2.4, 6-9dB, T30 - http://www.filefactory.com/file/dc16c7

This video shows a bit of noise. It did run at 9dB of gain for most of the clip though. I created a low noise picture profile but was under some time constraints so I couldn't really try it.

Butterfly 1 ~F6, 0dB, T30 - http://www.filefactory.com/file/b468a0

Butterfly 2 ~F4, 0dB, T30 - http://www.filefactory.com/file/0c7939

Walk ~F4, 0dB, T30 - http://www.filefactory.com/file/d18c37

Zsolt Gordos · December 27th, 2006, 07:36 PM

Cannot download the files. The file name is displayed but no link where to download...or no download stats automatically.

Chris Medico · December 27th, 2006, 07:42 PM

Check the page and click the link that reads:

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Zsolt Gordos · December 27th, 2006, 08:41 PM

Great shots Chris! I love these birds. Where do you shoot this footage, somewhere in the tropics?

Chris Medico · December 27th, 2006, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zsolt Gordos

Great shots Chris! I love these birds. Where do you shoot this footage, somewhere in the tropics?

Thanks!!

Shooting in the tropics would be nice but no, it was here in North Carolina. :)

There is a butterfly habitat at the local Natural Science Museum in Durham North Carolina.

You can check out their page here - http://www.ncmls.org/

Pasty Jackson · December 28th, 2006, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Boswell

Pasty...Here is a clip with the following settings:

Looks pretty sweet. As usual, thanks for the footage Daniel!

-Pasty

Chris Medico · January 13th, 2007, 08:14 AM

Yesterday I had an opportunity to shot some video of my neighbor helping me get my cat out of a tree. Obviously the cat would be heavily backlit against the sky.

Toby is about 40' up in a pine tree. Lots of thin needles that moved around a bit. When I started looking at the footage later I realized how much of a struggle it was for the CODEC in the camera to handle these conditions. All these small objects moving around in a very high contrast setting seems to exceed the bandwidth available in HDV. I shot using the histogram and the AE bias enabled so I could bring up the foreground a bit. The camera was set in AUTO @ 1080p30. The gain was 0db for the whole time (as indicated on the VF).

Anyway, I didn't shoot this to be a demo piece but I think it does well to show what the camera does under certain conditions. I'm not posting it to bash the camera either. I'm quite happy with it. I didn't think at the time how much trouble these conditions might be. This goes into the file for later reference I assure you! :)

I'll post some RAW files when I can but if you check out the HD WMV file on my blip.tv page (link in sig) you can see what I'm talking about. The WMV encoder had fits with the pine needles in the tree and GREATLY magnified the problem. Obviously the RAW file looks better but even in the RAW file you can see a good bit of blocking and noise from running out of bandwidth.

Thats my take anyway. I'd certainly like to hear the thoughts of others.

Chris

January 15th, 2007, 01:08 PM

I shot and cut this at 24p. There is no color correction or FX of any kind. It is only 1/2 resolution and there is a little web compression, but it does a nice job of showing off the camera, I think.

RIGHT CLICK AND DOWNLOAD THE LINKED FILE:

http://www.sharing.ramjetfilms.com/Rocky_Peak_540p.mov

Michael Y Wong · January 15th, 2007, 04:06 PM

^^

WOW, the image is very very detailed... and the harsh sunset shots are well handled by good dynamic range of the camera.

Impressive!

Zsolt Gordos · January 15th, 2007, 04:32 PM

Great skin details! And I love the dirt on the specs :)

Chris Medico · January 15th, 2007, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Williams

I shot and cut this at 24p. There is no color correction or FX of any kind. It is only 1/2 resolution and there is a little web compression, but it does a nice job of showing off the camera, I think.

RIGHT CLICK AND DOWNLOAD THE LINKED FILE:

http://www.sharing.ramjetfilms.com/Rocky_Peak_540p.mov

Hi Brian,

Nice work, I really enjoyed it. It makes me want Avid to release the update for Liquid that handles 24p ingest sooner than later.

Chris

December 27th, 2006, 07:26 PM	#35
Chris Medico Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Efland NC, USA Posts: 2,322	OK. Here are some video clips I shot yesterday. They were all shot 1080p30. Mode - AUTO, all picture profile settings stock The video is FUSED with AVID Liquid so it is not re-rendered. The walkway in the butterfly house is so narrow it was impossible to setup my tripod and not block the path so I have to apologize if the video is a little shaky again. I'll likely return when its not so busy and try again with the tripod. Birds ~F2.4, 6-9dB, T30 - http://www.filefactory.com/file/dc16c7 This video shows a bit of noise. It did run at 9dB of gain for most of the clip though. I created a low noise picture profile but was under some time constraints so I couldn't really try it. Butterfly 1 ~F6, 0dB, T30 - http://www.filefactory.com/file/b468a0 Butterfly 2 ~F4, 0dB, T30 - http://www.filefactory.com/file/0c7939 Walk ~F4, 0dB, T30 - http://www.filefactory.com/file/d18c37 __________________ http://www.LandYachtMedia.com

December 27th, 2006, 07:42 PM	#37
Chris Medico Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Efland NC, USA Posts: 2,322	Check the page and click the link that reads: Download for free with FileFactory Basic __________________ http://www.LandYachtMedia.com

January 13th, 2007, 08:14 AM	#41
Chris Medico Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Efland NC, USA Posts: 2,322	Interesting... Yesterday I had an opportunity to shot some video of my neighbor helping me get my cat out of a tree. Obviously the cat would be heavily backlit against the sky. Toby is about 40' up in a pine tree. Lots of thin needles that moved around a bit. When I started looking at the footage later I realized how much of a struggle it was for the CODEC in the camera to handle these conditions. All these small objects moving around in a very high contrast setting seems to exceed the bandwidth available in HDV. I shot using the histogram and the AE bias enabled so I could bring up the foreground a bit. The camera was set in AUTO @ 1080p30. The gain was 0db for the whole time (as indicated on the VF). Anyway, I didn't shoot this to be a demo piece but I think it does well to show what the camera does under certain conditions. I'm not posting it to bash the camera either. I'm quite happy with it. I didn't think at the time how much trouble these conditions might be. This goes into the file for later reference I assure you! :) I'll post some RAW files when I can but if you check out the HD WMV file on my blip.tv page (link in sig) you can see what I'm talking about. The WMV encoder had fits with the pine needles in the tree and GREATLY magnified the problem. Obviously the RAW file looks better but even in the RAW file you can see a good bit of blocking and noise from running out of bandwidth. Thats my take anyway. I'd certainly like to hear the thoughts of others. Chris __________________ http://www.LandYachtMedia.com

January 15th, 2007, 01:08 PM	#42
Brian Williams Posts: n/a	2 minutes of 24p footage from V1U I shot and cut this at 24p. There is no color correction or FX of any kind. It is only 1/2 resolution and there is a little web compression, but it does a nice job of showing off the camera, I think. RIGHT CLICK AND DOWNLOAD THE LINKED FILE: http://www.sharing.ramjetfilms.com/Rocky_Peak_540p.mov

January 15th, 2007, 04:06 PM	#43
Michael Y Wong Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Toronto Ontario Canada! Posts: 353	^^ WOW, the image is very very detailed... and the harsh sunset shots are well handled by good dynamic range of the camera. Impressive! __________________ dreaming hobbyist + storyteller www.michaelywong.com

December 25th, 2006, 01:47 PM	#32
Drew Long Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 64	Daniel Are you sure you shot that in 24PA? I see combing interlace effects from when the camera is moving.

December 25th, 2006, 03:41 PM	#33
Adam Palomer Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Summit, NJ Posts: 169	That's a beautiful cat. Does he/she know how famous s/he’s become? I like how the camera can resolve individual hairs. The color reproduction is amazing too.

December 27th, 2006, 07:36 PM	#36
Zsolt Gordos Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 414	Cannot download the files. The file name is displayed but no link where to download...or no download stats automatically.

December 27th, 2006, 08:41 PM	#38
Zsolt Gordos Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 414	Great shots Chris! I love these birds. Where do you shoot this footage, somewhere in the tropics?

January 15th, 2007, 04:32 PM	#44
Zsolt Gordos Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 414	Great skin details! And I love the dirt on the specs :) __________________ Sony XDCAM EX1r, Canon 5DMkII, Røde NTG2, Røde NT1000, Røde Stereo Videomic, Sachtler DV6 SB on Gitzo 1325V, Steadicam Merlin, Omnitracker, Hackintosh 3.5Ghz Quad 8Gb RAM