Comparison of FX7 / FX1

Rick Hensley · December 1st, 2006, 02:25 PM

GREAT job.

Any plans to do some human faces - interior shots with varying amounts of light?

thanks for all the hard work.

Paulo Teixeira · December 1st, 2006, 07:48 PM

Since there are already people asking for you to do some more examples, I feel a little sad that I have to ask you a favor as well but here it goes: Do you think you will ever get the change to do a comparison between the V1u and the XH-G1/A1, and that’s if you are able to get a hold of both at the same time. If you do, then I hope you are able to survive a thread like that because it may turn into World War 3 knowing that a lot of people including myself have a strong favoritism toward either camcorder.

It’s amazing that you put so much effort into these comparisons.

Wolfgang Winne · December 2nd, 2006, 02:48 AM

you mean that?

http://www.fxsupport.de/pic/06/12/02/08.jpg

Tony Tremble · December 2nd, 2006, 06:34 AM

Thank you for the comprehensive DOF tests. The berries look good enough to eat. But that would be a bad idea!

Wolfgang how does the Sony's video hold up with lots of motion? Has the FX7's encoder been upgraded from the FX1's? Do you have any clips of full frame motion of the camera?

Many thanks for your peerless comparison work.

TT

Wolfgang Winne · December 3rd, 2006, 02:15 AM

Yes, i have a many filmed with FX1/7.... i'm runnig fast with this camcorder, there not a camcorder better or bad in the picture quality. Is HDV Codec......

now i end the test's with fx1/7...... my time goes to my work. The last test, is a short "crazy test" with all six sony hdv/avchd camcorder in the next days.... (Z1, A1, V1 all the same video quality in auto-modus)

Wolfgang Winne · December 3rd, 2006, 04:10 AM

FX7 with Chrosziel:

http://www.fxsupport.de/profx7.jpg

Tony Tremble · December 3rd, 2006, 07:39 AM

Are you saying the FX7 has an excellent encoder? How does it compare with the FX1? I'm not asking you to post more clips.

You don't see any issues at all with lots of motion?

TT

Ken Ross · December 3rd, 2006, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Tremble

Are you saying the FX7 has an excellent encoder? How does it compare with the FX1? I'm not asking you to post more clips.

You don't see any issues at all with lots of motion?

TT

I think you'll find all camcorders have an issue with motion such as fast pans. The encoders just can't keep up with this amount of information. It's no different watching broadcast HDTV. Fast motion will always result in a certain amount of blurring.

Matt Davis · December 5th, 2006, 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfgang Winne

The power was good to me ;-)

Another vote of thanks for your work.

Looking at Images 27 & 38, and thinking of other shots with strong vertical/horizontal edges (e.g. bridge shots), the FX1 shows heavy-handed edge enhancement ('sharpness') whereas the FX7 seems a lot more delicate.

Does anyone know what the default Sharpness setting is for the FX7? IIRC, the FX1/Z1 was about 12-13 on a 1-15 scale - though 8 may be considered neutral (but soft) and 1 unusable. Is the FX7 set at about 9 - 10 on sharpness by default?

Or is the 20x a better lens?

Robert Ducon · December 7th, 2006, 10:24 PM

Many many thanks Wolfgang!!

December 1st, 2006, 02:25 PM	#16
Rick Hensley Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Austin Texas Posts: 52	more? GREAT job. Any plans to do some human faces - interior shots with varying amounts of light? thanks for all the hard work.

December 1st, 2006, 07:48 PM	#17
Paulo Teixeira Trustee Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,773	Since there are already people asking for you to do some more examples, I feel a little sad that I have to ask you a favor as well but here it goes: Do you think you will ever get the change to do a comparison between the V1u and the XH-G1/A1, and that’s if you are able to get a hold of both at the same time. If you do, then I hope you are able to survive a thread like that because it may turn into World War 3 knowing that a lot of people including myself have a strong favoritism toward either camcorder. It’s amazing that you put so much effort into these comparisons. __________________ https://www.youtube.com/user/PhotoVi...esEtc/featured https://www.pond5.com/artist/paulot

December 2nd, 2006, 02:48 AM	#18
Wolfgang Winne Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bremen, Germany Posts: 176	you mean that? http://www.fxsupport.de/pic/06/12/02/08.jpg Attached Thumbnails __________________ Wolfgang Winne www.ohrwurmaudio.de www.fxsupport.de

December 3rd, 2006, 02:15 AM	#20
Wolfgang Winne Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bremen, Germany Posts: 176	Yes, i have a many filmed with FX1/7.... i'm runnig fast with this camcorder, there not a camcorder better or bad in the picture quality. Is HDV Codec...... now i end the test's with fx1/7...... my time goes to my work. The last test, is a short "crazy test" with all six sony hdv/avchd camcorder in the next days.... (Z1, A1, V1 all the same video quality in auto-modus) __________________ Wolfgang Winne www.ohrwurmaudio.de www.fxsupport.de

December 3rd, 2006, 04:10 AM	#21
Wolfgang Winne Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bremen, Germany Posts: 176	FX7 with Chrosziel: http://www.fxsupport.de/profx7.jpg __________________ Wolfgang Winne www.ohrwurmaudio.de www.fxsupport.de

December 2nd, 2006, 06:34 AM	#19
Tony Tremble Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 451	Thank you for the comprehensive DOF tests. The berries look good enough to eat. But that would be a bad idea! Wolfgang how does the Sony's video hold up with lots of motion? Has the FX7's encoder been upgraded from the FX1's? Do you have any clips of full frame motion of the camera? Many thanks for your peerless comparison work. TT

December 3rd, 2006, 07:39 AM	#22
Tony Tremble Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 451	Are you saying the FX7 has an excellent encoder? How does it compare with the FX1? I'm not asking you to post more clips. You don't see any issues at all with lots of motion? TT

December 7th, 2006, 10:24 PM	#25
Robert Ducon Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Victoria BC Posts: 400	Many many thanks Wolfgang!!