Anybody have FX7 footage yet? at DVinfo.net

Pasty Jackson · November 7th, 2006, 03:59 PM

Well, the FX7 has been available for a few days now... is nobody buying it or is there just no footage available yet?

Michael Liebergot · November 7th, 2006, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasty Jackson

Well, the FX7 has been available for a few days now... is nobody buying it or is there just no footage available yet?

I think that there has been too much hype on the recent release of the new Canon's XHA1/G1 cameras, which has stolen Sony'e thunder right now, in a big way. Even though it may have better optics due to the new 3 CMOS sensors (no verticle smear and grreater picture latitude), jury's still oput, the new Canon's have beter pro manual controls for only a few hundred more than the FX7.
Unless Sony permanently reduces the price of the FX7 to B&H's temporary promo price for Photo Expo attendees (of $2800), then the FX7 may linger in obscurity.

The same won't be said of the V1U though, which has quite a buzz around it. It's only a few hundred more than the Canon A1. And if the CMOS sensors work great as what Sony has been reporting, then the V1U will battle it out with the Canons.

Which as I said, if the price of the FX7 again doesn't come down, then sales may remain slugish. Which would be a shame, because it looks like a great consumer camera.

Dave Lammey · November 10th, 2006, 07:18 AM

Wow ... still looks like no one on this message board has bought an FX7 yet, whereas the Canon A1 forum is exploding with new users ... I'm guessing Sony loyalists are waiting for the V1 to appear.

If anyone has bought an FX7, I'd be highly interested in how its lowlight performance compares to the FX1/Z1 ... though we may have to wait until December when the V1 comes out to hear about that ...

Wes Vasher · November 10th, 2006, 07:27 AM

Videomaker has some FX7 clips available.

http://www.videomaker.com/blog/2006/...dr-fx7-footage

Brad Abrahams · November 10th, 2006, 10:50 AM

as un-color corrected clips those look pretty great.

Tim Le · November 10th, 2006, 11:17 AM

That is pretty nice footage. The coastline clips really have a nice feel to them. But I wonder why those clips and the fruit basket clip don't have the interlace artifacts like the last clip of the seagull? Is it because only the seagull clip was handheld?

Brad Abrahams · November 10th, 2006, 11:21 AM

Yes you don't notice the interlacing in the other clips because they are locked off and there is very minimal subject movement, where as in the seagull clip it is hand held and the subject is moving.

Justin Carlson · November 10th, 2006, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Brad Abrahams

as un-color corrected clips those look pretty great.

I'm very impressed with the raw clips.
I'll be interested to see 'if' theres any difference between the FX7 & V1U image.

Paulo Teixeira · November 10th, 2006, 02:51 PM

HDV files should be played on the latest version of DIVX because unlike VLC, you don’t see any of those artifacts. VLC is very good for other video sources but it’s to jerky when playing back handheld HDV footage. Play the footage on DIVX and you’ll be amazed.

Dave Ferdinand · November 10th, 2006, 06:32 PM

The clips look very nice but nothing that we hadn't seen the HC1 do. Check out Paulo's stuff in Azores and you'll see pretty much the same. I guess the difference will come from difficult shooting conditions, such as when there's high contrast areas and so on.

Mark Williams · November 10th, 2006, 06:46 PM

Paulo,

Thanks for the Divx suggestion. It works great on playing back the files at the proper speed on my older computer. No more VLC for me.

Regards,

Paulo Teixeira · November 10th, 2006, 07:38 PM

Dave Ferdinand,
I appreciate your comments about my footage and that’s only a small sample of what I did last year. Pond5 still has to upload the rest of my footage and because I gave them about 170 something clips on 4 DVDs, it may take a while. My best shots are not online yet so look back next month and you’ll be amazed.

The problem with Videomaker’s clips is that it wasn’t taken in a proper day for example in the hdfx7_capture_04.m2t clip you can obviously see a lot of clouds. If there were much fewer clouds you would have seen a lot more contrast and saturation. Just give me an FX7 or a V1u and I’ll show you what the camcorders is capable of.

Mark Williams,
I’m glad you’re taking my advice about using DIVX because I hear all over the place that VLC should be used when it can't even play HDV files properly.

Wes Vasher · November 10th, 2006, 09:53 PM

Nero Showtime is also a really good player for HDV files.

John McCully · November 10th, 2006, 10:21 PM

I’ve looked at the clips. Very nice, there is no problem with the cloud cover; I like the way that looks. Looks a bit like stuff I’ve seen off the new Canons. Not quite like the FX1, but might be near enough. I will probably get the V1U, for now. XDCAM soon!

And Paulo, old chap; when I get my hands on one of these cameras I’m not giving it to you! But I shall gladly recount my delights.

Tony Tremble · November 11th, 2006, 03:29 AM

These images have a wonderful anti-aliased quality about them. The fine lines of the foreground grasses are very capably rendered. Clearly this camera has bags of resolution. Looking forward to see more clips.

On the VLC comments:

I use VLC and have no problems with interlacing. VLC has many different de-interlacing schemes to suite any taste. What can Divx be doing that VLC can't be setup to do? There are only so many ways to skin a cat.

TT

November 7th, 2006, 03:59 PM	#1
Pasty Jackson Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 47	Anybody have FX7 footage yet? Well, the FX7 has been available for a few days now... is nobody buying it or is there just no footage available yet?

November 10th, 2006, 02:51 PM	#9
Paulo Teixeira Trustee Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,773	HDV files should be played on the latest version of DIVX because unlike VLC, you don’t see any of those artifacts. VLC is very good for other video sources but it’s to jerky when playing back handheld HDV footage. Play the footage on DIVX and you’ll be amazed. __________________ https://www.youtube.com/user/PhotoVi...esEtc/featured https://www.pond5.com/artist/paulot

November 10th, 2006, 06:32 PM	#10
Dave Ferdinand Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 359	The clips look very nice but nothing that we hadn't seen the HC1 do. Check out Paulo's stuff in Azores and you'll see pretty much the same. I guess the difference will come from difficult shooting conditions, such as when there's high contrast areas and so on. __________________ Do or do not, there is no try.

November 10th, 2006, 06:46 PM	#11
Mark Williams Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Deep South, U.S. Posts: 1,526	Paulo, Thanks for the Divx suggestion. It works great on playing back the files at the proper speed on my older computer. No more VLC for me. Regards, __________________ Mark videos: http://vimeo.com/channels/3523 Stock: http://www.pond5.com/artist/mark29

November 10th, 2006, 07:38 PM	#12
Paulo Teixeira Trustee Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,773	Dave Ferdinand, I appreciate your comments about my footage and that’s only a small sample of what I did last year. Pond5 still has to upload the rest of my footage and because I gave them about 170 something clips on 4 DVDs, it may take a while. My best shots are not online yet so look back next month and you’ll be amazed. The problem with Videomaker’s clips is that it wasn’t taken in a proper day for example in the hdfx7_capture_04.m2t clip you can obviously see a lot of clouds. If there were much fewer clouds you would have seen a lot more contrast and saturation. Just give me an FX7 or a V1u and I’ll show you what the camcorders is capable of. Mark Williams, I’m glad you’re taking my advice about using DIVX because I hear all over the place that VLC should be used when it can't even play HDV files properly. __________________ https://www.youtube.com/user/PhotoVi...esEtc/featured https://www.pond5.com/artist/paulot Last edited by Paulo Teixeira; November 10th, 2006 at 09:45 PM.

November 10th, 2006, 07:18 AM	#3
Dave Lammey Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Simsbury, CT Posts: 247	Wow ... still looks like no one on this message board has bought an FX7 yet, whereas the Canon A1 forum is exploding with new users ... I'm guessing Sony loyalists are waiting for the V1 to appear. If anyone has bought an FX7, I'd be highly interested in how its lowlight performance compares to the FX1/Z1 ... though we may have to wait until December when the V1 comes out to hear about that ...

November 10th, 2006, 07:27 AM	#4
Wes Vasher Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 440	Videomaker has some FX7 clips available. http://www.videomaker.com/blog/2006/...dr-fx7-footage

November 10th, 2006, 10:50 AM	#5
Brad Abrahams Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 65	as un-color corrected clips those look pretty great.

November 10th, 2006, 11:17 AM	#6
Tim Le Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 350	That is pretty nice footage. The coastline clips really have a nice feel to them. But I wonder why those clips and the fruit basket clip don't have the interlace artifacts like the last clip of the seagull? Is it because only the seagull clip was handheld?

November 10th, 2006, 11:21 AM	#7
Brad Abrahams Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 65	Yes you don't notice the interlacing in the other clips because they are locked off and there is very minimal subject movement, where as in the seagull clip it is hand held and the subject is moving.

November 10th, 2006, 09:53 PM	#13
Wes Vasher Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 440	Nero Showtime is also a really good player for HDV files.

November 10th, 2006, 10:21 PM	#14
John McCully Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: South Island, New Zealand Posts: 609 Images: 2	I’ve looked at the clips. Very nice, there is no problem with the cloud cover; I like the way that looks. Looks a bit like stuff I’ve seen off the new Canons. Not quite like the FX1, but might be near enough. I will probably get the V1U, for now. XDCAM soon! And Paulo, old chap; when I get my hands on one of these cameras I’m not giving it to you! But I shall gladly recount my delights.

November 11th, 2006, 03:29 AM	#15
Tony Tremble Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 451	These images have a wonderful anti-aliased quality about them. The fine lines of the foreground grasses are very capably rendered. Clearly this camera has bags of resolution. Looking forward to see more clips. On the VLC comments: I use VLC and have no problems with interlacing. VLC has many different de-interlacing schemes to suite any taste. What can Divx be doing that VLC can't be setup to do? There are only so many ways to skin a cat. TT