HVR-DR60 portable Hard-drive unit at DVinfo.net

Piotr Wozniacki · October 19th, 2006, 08:58 AM

I assume it's some application embedded in the V1 firmware that is controlling it? If so, is it possible to connect any HDD (eg. a regular 3.5" one, in an enclosure with FiWi interface) to record to it?

Chris Hurd · October 19th, 2006, 10:30 AM

It's not that simple, Piotr... the hard disk recorder has to be smart enough to know what to do with the incoming data. The DR60 writes an edit-ready file (either .M2T or .AVI), just like the Focus Enhancements FireStore and similar devices. It's the DR60 that does this, not the camcorder. The DR60 is much more than "just" a hard drive.

Piotr Wozniacki · October 19th, 2006, 10:39 AM

Yeah, well... It must be either the camera, or the hard drive that knows what to do with the data stream. With the DR60 price tag, I should suspect it's tha latter. But thanks anyway, Chris.

Tim Spencer · October 30th, 2006, 03:47 PM

The HVR-DR60 seems ridiculously overpriced to me...
(or am I the only one who feels this way? :) )

What I would really love to see is a HVR-V1 with internal
removable hard drive.

Lately I've been recording a lot of plays. The first part always run into 1 hour and 10+ minutes... with very little pause in between scenes. I only have one camcorder recording, so chaning the tape means I had to abrutply change tapes.... :( A hard drive recording unit is perfect for me, but it's just too expensive at the moment. :(

Chris Barcellos · October 30th, 2006, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Spencer

The HVR-DR60 seems ridiculously overpriced to me...
(or am I the only one who feels this way? :) )

What I would really love to see is a HVR-V1 with internal
removable hard drive.

Lately I've been recording a lot of plays. The first part always run into 1 hour and 10+ minutes... with very little pause in between scenes. I only have one camcorder recording, so chaning the tape means I had to abrutply change tapes.... :( A hard drive recording unit is perfect for me, but it's just too expensive at the moment. :(

Of course that is list. No telling what street price will be.

Actually, I was thinking about internal hard drive a couple of months ago too. Even had it on a Sony Claus wish list thread I started here. But why make the whole camera dependent on a hard drive interface. Years ago electronic went component after manufacturers realized every one want one feature or another.... So I think it is a good way to go.

Tim Spencer · October 30th, 2006, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Barcellos

Sony Claus wish list

I want to add one more item to the list... :)

High definition camcorder under $4000 with a slot for Apple 160GB video iPod.

Stu Holmes · October 30th, 2006, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Barcellos

Of course that is list. No telling what street price will be.

Err... well US$1,490 is a current street-price & I'm sure its a competitive one.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ughType=search

Chris Barcellos · October 30th, 2006, 05:47 PM

Isn't that running close to the Firestore pricing ??

I also think the technology isn't that tough that other manufacturers will have competing models. Licensing of some sort or another maybe a bigger problem. Not sure what is actually stored on harddrive. M2T ?? Anybody heard ?

Douglas Spotted Eagle · October 30th, 2006, 05:54 PM

m2t or DV are the file types stored on the drive.
I have a Firestore, and love it. I have a Citidisk, and well....
I have an Nnovia, and love it, too, but it's big as a house compared to the Firestore.
the Sony is lighter, smaller, and easier to use than any of the others, IMO

George Bean · October 30th, 2006, 08:18 PM

Is the sony silent?
The firestore has a loud fan making placement near a microphone difficult.

Stu Holmes · October 31st, 2006, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Bean

Is the sony silent?
The firestore has a loud fan making placement near a microphone difficult.

A fan in a small HDD unit?? thats a bit odd. For sure that will make using it tough as you'd have to keep it away from the mic. I'm certain the Sony DR60 is sealed, and no fan.

Douglas Spotted Eagle · October 31st, 2006, 08:47 AM

The pre-production DR60 was virtually silent; I don't have it next to me any longer to test the total noise output, but it was quiet enough that you'd need to put your head/ear next to it to hear anything.

Tim Spencer · October 31st, 2006, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Douglas Spotted Eagle

The pre-production DR60 was virtually silent; I don't have it next to me any longer to test the total noise output, but it was quiet enough that you'd need to put your head/ear next to it to hear anything.

Some hard drives will no doubt become noisy after a while. Will Sony's warranty replace it, just because it's noisy?

Scott Webster · October 31st, 2006, 01:25 PM

Is there any chance Sony will produce a firewire bullet/pencilcam to go with the
HVRDR60?

October 19th, 2006, 08:58 AM	#1
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Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	Isn't that running close to the Firestore pricing ?? I also think the technology isn't that tough that other manufacturers will have competing models. Licensing of some sort or another maybe a bigger problem. Not sure what is actually stored on harddrive. M2T ?? Anybody heard ? __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

October 30th, 2006, 05:54 PM	#9
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	m2t or DV are the file types stored on the drive. I have a Firestore, and love it. I have a Citidisk, and well.... I have an Nnovia, and love it, too, but it's big as a house compared to the Firestore. the Sony is lighter, smaller, and easier to use than any of the others, IMO __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

October 31st, 2006, 08:47 AM	#12
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	The pre-production DR60 was virtually silent; I don't have it next to me any longer to test the total noise output, but it was quiet enough that you'd need to put your head/ear next to it to hear anything. __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

October 19th, 2006, 10:39 AM	#3
Piotr Wozniacki Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Poland Posts: 4,086	Yeah, well... It must be either the camera, or the hard drive that knows what to do with the data stream. With the DR60 price tag, I should suspect it's tha latter. But thanks anyway, Chris.

October 30th, 2006, 03:47 PM	#4
Tim Spencer New Boot Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 20	The HVR-DR60 seems ridiculously overpriced to me... (or am I the only one who feels this way? :) ) What I would really love to see is a HVR-V1 with internal removable hard drive. Lately I've been recording a lot of plays. The first part always run into 1 hour and 10+ minutes... with very little pause in between scenes. I only have one camcorder recording, so chaning the tape means I had to abrutply change tapes.... :( A hard drive recording unit is perfect for me, but it's just too expensive at the moment. :(

October 30th, 2006, 08:18 PM	#10
George Bean Major Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 248	Is the sony silent? The firestore has a loud fan making placement near a microphone difficult.

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Scott Webster Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 136	Is there any chance Sony will produce a firewire bullet/pencilcam to go with the HVRDR60?