HVR-V1U: Download two 24P video clips shot by the V1U

[Chris Hurd]

Rec'd from Douglas Spotted Eagle:

http://www.sundancemediagroup.com/media/para1.wmv

http://www.sundancemediagroup.com/media/para2.wmv

"These clips are 24p, processed as 60i, and output as 24p. In the process, some information was lost; no NLE currently supports 3:2 pulldown in HD resolution for HDV, so there was no option but to recompress these files and process as they are managed in order to watermark them."

The accompanying article is located at http://www.hdvinfo.net/articles/sony/firstlookv1u.php

[Chris Hurd]

Raw HDV in the form of an .M2T file, from VASST: http://www.sundancemediagroup.com/me...24p_VASST2.m2t

[Heath McKnight]

This footage is killer. I dig the 24p look and it's always cool to see Spot's skydiving video (even if he's on the ground).

heath

[Chris Barcellos]

Chris:

This video is 1280 x 720. Excuse my ingnorance, but is the actual footage considered 720p ? Or is it 1080 24p, if there is such a thing. (This P stuff is pretty new to Sony users.)

Edit: Oh, I reread the post, and I think I got it..

[Heath McKnight]

I believe it's 1080p24. The footage you're watching may have been down-converted to 1280x720. I'll take another look.

heath

[Philip Williams]

That's looking really, really promising.

[Brent Ethington]

what is it that these clips are supposed to demonstrate? just the 24p effect?

they seem soft, but that may be due to scaling down to 720p or all the movement in the scene. are there any full 1080i/p versions to view?

[Shaughan Flynn]

1/4" chips...

[Chris Barcellos]

Originally Posted by Shaughan Flynn

1/4" chips...

Think you're going to be wrong about that. 3 CMOS is going to be different than 3CCD. I think softness is encoding to 180 x 720 and to .wmv-- saw some hdv footage of the V1e that was pretty stunning.

[Douglas Spotted Eagle]

There is actually raw HDV footage from the camcorder available on the VASST site, but I'll wait til Chris links it.
The softness you see is due to the wmv encoding. These were clips created a few days ago for various people to compare detailing in the format and still forego bandwidth issues.
Boyd and others saw the original footage today projected on a 36' screen, and I'd guess they were impressed....it was unprocessed footage, just 24p with pulldown added, and I had about 1 minute of 60i mixed in there too, just to show what the 60i looked like at 180 mph.

[Chris Hurd]

Not a long wait! My second post in this thread, plus Spot's article on our site, is now updated with the link to his raw HDV clip in .M2T format just mentioned. For those not wanting to scroll up, that link is http://www.sundancemediagroup.com/me...24p_VASST2.m2t

[Boyd Ostroff]

Absolutely.... there was nothing even slightly soft about that footage, it was remarkable. I kept bothering Michael Wisenski through the whole show as I exclaimed "I wish my Z1 could do that!"

[Heath McKnight]

Chris,

Can you put the "First Look at the V1u" you have at hdvinfo.net on the main page so it's easy to find?

Thanks,

heath

[Michael Wisniewski]

Yes, the video was remarkable. Not soft at all. One of the things that's hitting me now is how well the camcorder handles blow outs, I didn't notice any, meaning they didn't stand out like they normally do in normal video. And that's with Spot constantly panning directly into the sun.

[Heath McKnight]

Another clip to download:

http://www.vasst.com/resource.aspx?i...a-7a9431fe3407

Keep in mind, there's no pulldown removal, hence a slight "ghosting" that I've seen in other footage from other HDV cameras without the removed pulldown.

heath