Sony V1 footage online at DVinfo.net

Mikko Wilson · September 14th, 2006, 03:26 AM

Hmm... I'm supprized no one has posted this here...

I have DV and HDV footage and stills from the V1 posted online here: link no longer valid

- Mikko

Bob Zimmerman · September 14th, 2006, 07:00 AM

I guess I need to get the upgraded quicktime to watch the HDV footage. Anyway to downgrade it?

Oleg Kalyan · September 14th, 2006, 12:57 PM

I am on Mac, I use VLC player.

Paulo Teixeira · September 14th, 2006, 03:47 PM

DIVX is the most reliable player for HDV files.
http://www.divx.com/divx/mac/

Ainslie Davies · September 14th, 2006, 09:39 PM

Looks like true progressive chips to me. There is little to no resolution loss between the 50i and 25p versions. His face gets a little softer but that's about it. I'm sure that's a huge improvement regarding loss of quality when de-interlacing Sony's first generation HDV camera footage. I'm going to make a bold statment and say from this preliminary footage that it does NOT look as good as the FX1/Z1, but we will see in the coming weeks.

People tend to get attached to a brand like Sony which is why this/these new camera(s) will sell. If you rationally think about it, the new Canon is a far better deal: For the same price it has XLR and far more manual settings. The psudo-24p is nearly as good as the real thing, and -at least in 50/60i - it has a better (sharper) image.

I'm sticking to my FX1 for now, the biggest kill on the V1/FX7 is the 1/4" chips which won't cut it for shallow DOF.

Richard Zlamany · September 14th, 2006, 10:06 PM

The Digital Extender Feature might help with that problem. It will extend the focal length by 1.5 times from what I read.

Ainslie Davies · September 14th, 2006, 10:26 PM

I think thats just digital zoom, I could never reccomend it for anything serious to preserve quality. Sure the Zoom is bigger at 20x but the extra room required to position yourself further from the subject and zoom in more will make it redundant for DOF work. 20x is far nicer than 12x for everything else.

Douglas Spotted Eagle · September 15th, 2006, 12:20 AM

No, it's not "just digital zoom." There's a bit more to it than that...but you'll have to wait until more information and images are allowable by Sony.

Stu Holmes · September 15th, 2006, 12:17 PM

Aha this is interesting. Thanks for that little snippet Spot. I had thought too that it was just a new name for a digital crop, but reading between the lines a bit it sounds to me like they're applying some clever image-processing or algorithm to that feature.

I'd guess that you'd like to expand a little on it, but totally understand that, right now, you can't until you get the go ahead. (any idea how long it will be before you get the green light for releasing results of your testing?)

thanks

Chris Hurd · September 15th, 2006, 12:33 PM

Er... not too long at all actually. Stay tuned to DV Info Net.

Douglas Spotted Eagle · September 15th, 2006, 12:46 PM

Chris can somewhat say more than I can... he's not bound by an NDA the size of the New York yellow pages. :-)

but yes, I have an exact idea of when I can start speaking...I just can't exactly say when that might be.

Stu Holmes · September 15th, 2006, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hurd

Er... not too long at all actually. Stay tuned to DV Info Net.

aha thanks Chris.

My finger won't stray too far from the "refresh" key....

Bob Zimmerman · September 15th, 2006, 02:21 PM

Still waiting,,,,,,,,

Chris Hurd · September 15th, 2006, 10:14 PM

Yeah, on a weekend... heh... you'll be waiting for awhile.

New product announcements *always* happen on business days!

Heath McKnight · September 15th, 2006, 10:48 PM

I've seen other footage from the camera and it's amazing. What this footage looked like made me realize I can definitely benefit from the camera, as can many others.

heath

September 14th, 2006, 03:26 AM	#1
Mikko Wilson Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Juneau, Alaska, USA Posts: 624	Sony V1 footage online Hmm... I'm supprized no one has posted this here... I have DV and HDV footage and stills from the V1 posted online here: link no longer valid - Mikko __________________ Mikko Wilson - Steadicam Owner / Operator - Juneau, Alaska, USA +1 (907) 321-8387 - mikkowilson@hotmail.com - www.mikkowilson.com

September 14th, 2006, 09:39 PM	#5
Ainslie Davies Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 117	Looks like true progressive chips to me. There is little to no resolution loss between the 50i and 25p versions. His face gets a little softer but that's about it. I'm sure that's a huge improvement regarding loss of quality when de-interlacing Sony's first generation HDV camera footage. I'm going to make a bold statment and say from this preliminary footage that it does NOT look as good as the FX1/Z1, but we will see in the coming weeks. People tend to get attached to a brand like Sony which is why this/these new camera(s) will sell. If you rationally think about it, the new Canon is a far better deal: For the same price it has XLR and far more manual settings. The psudo-24p is nearly as good as the real thing, and -at least in 50/60i - it has a better (sharper) image. I'm sticking to my FX1 for now, the biggest kill on the V1/FX7 is the 1/4" chips which won't cut it for shallow DOF. __________________ Ainslie Davies - www.dualityproductions.com

September 14th, 2006, 10:26 PM	#7
Ainslie Davies Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 117	I think thats just digital zoom, I could never reccomend it for anything serious to preserve quality. Sure the Zoom is bigger at 20x but the extra room required to position yourself further from the subject and zoom in more will make it redundant for DOF work. 20x is far nicer than 12x for everything else. __________________ Ainslie Davies - www.dualityproductions.com

September 15th, 2006, 12:20 AM	#8
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	No, it's not "just digital zoom." There's a bit more to it than that...but you'll have to wait until more information and images are allowable by Sony. __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

September 15th, 2006, 12:33 PM	#10
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Er... not too long at all actually. Stay tuned to DV Info Net. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

September 14th, 2006, 07:00 AM	#2
Bob Zimmerman Major Player Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Illinois Posts: 888	I guess I need to get the upgraded quicktime to watch the HDV footage. Anyway to downgrade it?

September 14th, 2006, 12:57 PM	#3
Oleg Kalyan Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: MOSCOW Posts: 860	I am on Mac, I use VLC player.

September 14th, 2006, 03:47 PM	#4
Paulo Teixeira Trustee Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,773	DIVX is the most reliable player for HDV files. http://www.divx.com/divx/mac/

September 14th, 2006, 10:06 PM	#6
Richard Zlamany Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hamden CT Posts: 470	The Digital Extender Feature might help with that problem. It will extend the focal length by 1.5 times from what I read.

September 15th, 2006, 12:17 PM	#9
Stu Holmes Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Europe Posts: 844	Aha this is interesting. Thanks for that little snippet Spot. I had thought too that it was just a new name for a digital crop, but reading between the lines a bit it sounds to me like they're applying some clever image-processing or algorithm to that feature. I'd guess that you'd like to expand a little on it, but totally understand that, right now, you can't until you get the go ahead. (any idea how long it will be before you get the green light for releasing results of your testing?) thanks

September 15th, 2006, 12:46 PM	#11
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	Chris can somewhat say more than I can... he's not bound by an NDA the size of the New York yellow pages. :-) but yes, I have an exact idea of when I can start speaking...I just can't exactly say when that might be. __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

September 15th, 2006, 02:21 PM	#13
Bob Zimmerman Major Player Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Illinois Posts: 888	Still waiting,,,,,,,,

September 15th, 2006, 10:14 PM	#14
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Yeah, on a weekend... heh... you'll be waiting for awhile. New product announcements always happen on business days! __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

September 15th, 2006, 10:48 PM	#15
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	I've seen other footage from the camera and it's amazing. What this footage looked like made me realize I can definitely benefit from the camera, as can many others. heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog