fx7 returning...lower price

Jeff Harper · November 9th, 2008, 05:41 AM

Michael, I don't know if Adam's info about availabilty is more current than my info, but I'll tell you that I spoke with B&H last week and they said the cam was coming in 11/5. I called them Friday after 1pm only to learn they close at 1pm, so I didn't find out if the cams showed up or not. I have FX1000 ordered and hope to use it next week, but it's looking grim at this point.

Victor Wilcox · November 10th, 2008, 01:10 PM

I checked at noon and Sony says the FX1000 and FX7 or out of stock. My FX7 is on back order at B&H. Let the waiting begin.

Michael Kraus · November 10th, 2008, 01:14 PM

I see. So B&H already has them out just already backordered then..?

Michael Kraus · November 10th, 2008, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Blackhurst

Personally I thought they should come up with an answer to the tapeless Panasonic HMC150 - basically a smaller FX7 without the tape mech... but who knows?

I was hoping that Sony would do something of the sort as well. It seems however that they don't want AVCHD infiltrating their pro/prosumer line. If they busted out a 1/3 inch CMOS cam that went to SxS then it would be pretty interesting....but that's probably not an easy thing to do while keeping cost down and protecting other segments of their market.

Greg Laves · November 10th, 2008, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Kraus

I was hoping that Sony would do something of the sort as well. It seems however that they don't want AVCHD infiltrating their pro/prosumer line. If they busted out a 1/3 inch CMOS cam that went to SxS then it would be pretty interesting....but that's probably not an easy thing to do while keeping cost down and protecting other segments of their market.

I am all in favor of going tapeless if and when the memory becomes a LOT more reasonably priced. Paying $1000+ for a P2 card or $700 for SxS cards for a very limited record time is just ridiculous, IMHO. I think the only tapeless system that is getting close to being reasonable is the CF Memory Recording Unit for the Z7 and the Z5. And being limited to HDV recording is fine with me. My HDV footage looks great but more importantly, my clients like what they see.

Jeff Harper · November 10th, 2008, 05:31 PM

I talked with a Sony salesman and he says these cams will not be shipping until early DECEMBER. I can't believe this and I won't believe this, I tell you!

I have shoots planned next week with mine.

I have been told by B&H that they have forwarded my inquiry directly to Sony and I will be hearing back from them at some point. We'll see.

Michael Kraus · November 10th, 2008, 09:24 PM

Thanks for the update jeff. That's a bummer that they are coming later than expected....especially since you had made plans involving them.

Man, I've been on the edge of my seat all month. I am really eager to hear how people like their fx1000s. Guess I'll just have to wait another month....

Jeff Harper · November 12th, 2008, 03:52 PM

Confirmed by B&H today, FX1000 shipping end of the month. While I'm sure no one else will have it sooner, if anyone hears of it's availability before then please post.

Edit: Amazon says will be released on Nov 22.

Jeff Harper · November 14th, 2008, 07:29 PM

Victor, my back-ordered FX1000 shipped today. Maybe your FX7 isn't far behind!

Victor Wilcox · November 18th, 2008, 06:25 PM

B&H finally has the Sony HDR-FX7 in stock. My order hasn't shipped yet, but it's in processing. Look's like I'll have it before Thanksgiving. :-)

Jeff Harper · November 19th, 2008, 06:20 AM

See my post:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/sony-hvr-...pressions.html

Joe Busch · December 19th, 2008, 05:49 AM

It's almost hilarious how much you hate the FX7.

Need to realize that not everyone needs the low-light and doesn't need to spend the extra money just to have it...

And I think everyone who read reviews knew the FX7 was terrible in low-light, but it was at the right price-point for the features it did have... and the images in daylight are awesome...

Considering that's all I shoot, it's perfect.

http://lousyhero.com/videos/epicprevhd.wmv
http://lousyhero.com/videos/epicprevhd2.wmv

All that has some post processing/editing...

Victor Wilcox · December 19th, 2008, 08:41 AM

Josh, the slow motion looks fantastic. What settings did you shoot with. I just got my FX7 Thangsgiving week, so I'm still tweaking settings.

If you don't mind sharing, what NLE and settings did you use in post?

Jeff Harper · December 19th, 2008, 09:38 AM

Joe, hate may be too strong a word...but yes I had issues with it that I didn't expect. It was worse in low light than I expected.

1/4" chips just don't can't cut when my competitors are using much better cams. I thought it would work for me, and I was wrong. As a spare cam for specific well-lit situations it would be fine. As a hobby camera it would be just fine. If this were only a hobby I would have a 1/2 consumer cam like the HV-30 and I would be in heaven. I love shooting with small cameras.

Joe Busch · December 19th, 2008, 07:46 PM

But why would you get a camera that has been reviewed as being terrible in low-light... for low-light situations... It's like believing MPG ratings on cars, saying "well this one says it gets decent MPG... " then being disappointed when it gets less then what was cited...

The slow-motion is possible with Vegas 7/8

Set your project settings to

Field Order - Progressive
De-interlace Method - Interpolate fields
Right click the clips you want to be slow-motion, set the playback rate on clips to .500 instead of 1.000

Render out as 30p... Wallah, perfect 60p-esq slowmotion with 60i footage.

November 10th, 2008, 01:10 PM	#92
Victor Wilcox Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Iron Horse Guest Ranch, Waller County, TX Posts: 340	I checked at noon and Sony says the FX1000 and FX7 or out of stock. My FX7 is on back order at B&H. Let the waiting begin. __________________ Vic Wilcox, http://wilcoxvideoproductions.com/Default.aspx Sony FDR-AX100, DJI Phantom 4 Pro, GoPro Hero 8 Blk, Vegas Pro 15, DaVinci Resolve 18

November 10th, 2008, 05:31 PM	#96
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	update on fx7/fx1000 shipping I talked with a Sony salesman and he says these cams will not be shipping until early DECEMBER. I can't believe this and I won't believe this, I tell you! I have shoots planned next week with mine. I have been told by B&H that they have forwarded my inquiry directly to Sony and I will be hearing back from them at some point. We'll see.

November 18th, 2008, 06:25 PM	#100
Victor Wilcox Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Iron Horse Guest Ranch, Waller County, TX Posts: 340	B&H finally has the Sony HDR-FX7 in stock. My order hasn't shipped yet, but it's in processing. Look's like I'll have it before Thanksgiving. :-) __________________ Vic Wilcox, http://wilcoxvideoproductions.com/Default.aspx Sony FDR-AX100, DJI Phantom 4 Pro, GoPro Hero 8 Blk, Vegas Pro 15, DaVinci Resolve 18

November 19th, 2008, 06:20 AM	#101
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	FX1000 first impressions See my post: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/sony-hvr-...pressions.html

December 19th, 2008, 08:41 AM	#103
Victor Wilcox Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Iron Horse Guest Ranch, Waller County, TX Posts: 340	Josh, the slow motion looks fantastic. What settings did you shoot with. I just got my FX7 Thangsgiving week, so I'm still tweaking settings. If you don't mind sharing, what NLE and settings did you use in post? __________________ Vic Wilcox, http://wilcoxvideoproductions.com/Default.aspx Sony FDR-AX100, DJI Phantom 4 Pro, GoPro Hero 8 Blk, Vegas Pro 15, DaVinci Resolve 18

November 9th, 2008, 05:41 AM	#91
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Michael, I don't know if Adam's info about availabilty is more current than my info, but I'll tell you that I spoke with B&H last week and they said the cam was coming in 11/5. I called them Friday after 1pm only to learn they close at 1pm, so I didn't find out if the cams showed up or not. I have FX1000 ordered and hope to use it next week, but it's looking grim at this point.

November 10th, 2008, 01:14 PM	#93
Michael Kraus Major Player Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Denton, TX Posts: 232	I see. So B&H already has them out just already backordered then..?

November 10th, 2008, 09:24 PM	#97
Michael Kraus Major Player Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Denton, TX Posts: 232	Thanks for the update jeff. That's a bummer that they are coming later than expected....especially since you had made plans involving them. Man, I've been on the edge of my seat all month. I am really eager to hear how people like their fx1000s. Guess I'll just have to wait another month....

November 12th, 2008, 03:52 PM	#98
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Confirmed by B&H today, FX1000 shipping end of the month. While I'm sure no one else will have it sooner, if anyone hears of it's availability before then please post. Edit: Amazon says will be released on Nov 22.

November 14th, 2008, 07:29 PM	#99
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Victor, my back-ordered FX1000 shipped today. Maybe your FX7 isn't far behind!

December 19th, 2008, 05:49 AM	#102
Joe Busch Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sammamish, WA Posts: 398	It's almost hilarious how much you hate the FX7. Need to realize that not everyone needs the low-light and doesn't need to spend the extra money just to have it... And I think everyone who read reviews knew the FX7 was terrible in low-light, but it was at the right price-point for the features it did have... and the images in daylight are awesome... Considering that's all I shoot, it's perfect. http://lousyhero.com/videos/epicprevhd.wmv http://lousyhero.com/videos/epicprevhd2.wmv All that has some post processing/editing...

December 19th, 2008, 09:38 AM	#104
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Joe, hate may be too strong a word...but yes I had issues with it that I didn't expect. It was worse in low light than I expected. 1/4" chips just don't can't cut when my competitors are using much better cams. I thought it would work for me, and I was wrong. As a spare cam for specific well-lit situations it would be fine. As a hobby camera it would be just fine. If this were only a hobby I would have a 1/2 consumer cam like the HV-30 and I would be in heaven. I love shooting with small cameras.

December 19th, 2008, 07:46 PM	#105
Joe Busch Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sammamish, WA Posts: 398	But why would you get a camera that has been reviewed as being terrible in low-light... for low-light situations... It's like believing MPG ratings on cars, saying "well this one says it gets decent MPG... " then being disappointed when it gets less then what was cited... The slow-motion is possible with Vegas 7/8 Set your project settings to Field Order - Progressive De-interlace Method - Interpolate fields Right click the clips you want to be slow-motion, set the playback rate on clips to .500 instead of 1.000 Render out as 30p... Wallah, perfect 60p-esq slowmotion with 60i footage.