Stereo micro to replace ori mono micro at the same place at DVinfo.net

Max Volki · April 7th, 2008, 07:45 AM

I would like to replace the Sony mono micro on my V1E with a stereo micro.

As the DR-60 uses the Camera Shoe, where I had my second mono micro, the new stereo micro should fit in to the ori-holder.

Is there a stereo micro, instead the Sony mono micro, that fits?

volki

Craig Irving · April 7th, 2008, 09:08 AM

You can always get a Rode SM5 shockmount. That's what I use and it works great. That way you'll be able to use any stereo shotgun you wish.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...icrophone.html

Andy Wilkinson · April 7th, 2008, 09:15 AM

Ended up with a double post as I edited - see below.

Andy Wilkinson · April 7th, 2008, 09:17 AM

They exist, eg AT825 (now alas just discontinued) or the more expensive Sennheiser MKE44P - also fairly hard to find (from my experience!) "Best" way to mount these on a camera would be with a Rode type (or similar make) of suspension mount, the ones that have the rubber bands that you push the mic body throught. Edit: I see a kind sole has given you a good link to what I meant!

However, I say 'best" with a caution - a stereo mic on a camera will pick up a lot more noise from you/your breathing/switch fiddling/your camera....even more than a mono shotgun because it will reject less side and rear noises. It's really NOT the best place to record stereo (or mono for that matter) unless you can only do "Run and Gun" type stuff. Having said that I do occassionally record stereo from a mic on a camera and, with care, it can be v. good for ambient/wild sounds.

Mike Beckett · April 7th, 2008, 12:05 PM

I use the Beyer MCE72. It's a bit slim for the Sony shockmount, so I wrapped a few layers of duck tape round the end of it and it's fine. I can't comment on its performance compared to the AT825, other than it's less than half the price, but it is good enough for me for general "atmospheric" recording.

I also use the Rode SM-5 when I use the NTG-2 mic, to keep it from intruding into the corner of the picture. It works fine with the V1. I can't leave it on when the camera is in its carry bag though, it doesn't fit.

I posted some sound samples here (at least one of the captions gives the wrong distance from the source, but that is minor):

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showpost....3&postcount=28

Max Volki · April 12th, 2008, 11:00 AM

Mike,

do you know that Beyerdynamics have 3 Mikros MCE72?
1. MCE 72
2. MCE-72 CAM
3. MCE-72 PV-CAM

http://www.beyerdynamic.de/en/broadc...crophones.html

MCE 72 CAM is with batterie or phantom, but >20 cm long
MCE 72 PV CAM is only phantom, but it is 13,5 cm short

Together with Rode SM5 it should be ok

Thank you all for your advise

Mike Beckett · April 12th, 2008, 02:53 PM

Hi Max,

Yes - I checked out the Beyer site and saw the options. The "CAM" version came with a shoe mount, which didn't suit the V1. Like yourself, I want the shoe mount to be kept free.

I would've gone for the "PV" version if I could have got it... as it is, I think I can manage to carry a couple of AA batteries with me, the single battery I've had in the mic has lasted for months!

D.J. Ammons · April 12th, 2008, 07:12 PM

If you want to broaden your choices for $30 you can buy a Cool Lux dual shoe bracket that turns your one shoe into two.

I use it on one of my V1U's so I can use both a Rode NTG-2 and Video light.

Max Volki · April 13th, 2008, 01:16 AM

Mike,

If you, or someone else, ever have problems, getting some audio equipment, be it consumer, prosumer or professional, try THOMANN.

One or the biggest German based firms to sell audio equipment. They usually just have everything in stock, if it is audio related. There website is multilingual and they send orders worldwide. Like B&H in US

They have also good prices.

If you live in a Non-EU Country as I do, you get the German VAT of 19% off.

http://www.thomann.de/gb/index.html
http://www.thomann.de/gb/search_dir.html?sw=MCE72

volki

Max Volki · April 13th, 2008, 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D.J. Ammons

If you want to broaden your choices for $30 you can buy a Cool Lux dual shoe bracket that turns your one shoe into two.

I use it on one of my V1U's so I can use both a Rode NTG-2 and Video light.

Not a bad solution,
But for my use, with a Sony DR-60-harddiskrecorder and a XLR-Micro, don’t you think, it will be a bit top heavy?
I will try the MCE-72 PV CAM micro first in the same place as the Sony micro and the DR-60 on the shoe. If the micro picks up to much camera noise, I can still put the Rode holder in the Sony holder

April 7th, 2008, 07:45 AM	#1
Max Volki Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 88	Stereo micro to replace ori mono micro at the same place I would like to replace the Sony mono micro on my V1E with a stereo micro. As the DR-60 uses the Camera Shoe, where I had my second mono micro, the new stereo micro should fit in to the ori-holder. Is there a stereo micro, instead the Sony mono micro, that fits? volki

April 7th, 2008, 09:15 AM	#3
Andy Wilkinson Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cambridge UK Posts: 2,853	stereo mic on a camera Ended up with a double post as I edited - see below. __________________ Andy K Wilkinson - https://www.shootingimage.co.uk Cambridge (UK) Corporate Video Production

April 7th, 2008, 09:17 AM	#4
Andy Wilkinson Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cambridge UK Posts: 2,853	stereo mic on a camera They exist, eg AT825 (now alas just discontinued) or the more expensive Sennheiser MKE44P - also fairly hard to find (from my experience!) "Best" way to mount these on a camera would be with a Rode type (or similar make) of suspension mount, the ones that have the rubber bands that you push the mic body throught. Edit: I see a kind sole has given you a good link to what I meant! However, I say 'best" with a caution - a stereo mic on a camera will pick up a lot more noise from you/your breathing/switch fiddling/your camera....even more than a mono shotgun because it will reject less side and rear noises. It's really NOT the best place to record stereo (or mono for that matter) unless you can only do "Run and Gun" type stuff. Having said that I do occassionally record stereo from a mic on a camera and, with care, it can be v. good for ambient/wild sounds. __________________ Andy K Wilkinson - https://www.shootingimage.co.uk Cambridge (UK) Corporate Video Production

April 7th, 2008, 12:05 PM	#5
Mike Beckett Trustee Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Antrim, Northern Ireland Posts: 1,569	I use the Beyer MCE72. It's a bit slim for the Sony shockmount, so I wrapped a few layers of duck tape round the end of it and it's fine. I can't comment on its performance compared to the AT825, other than it's less than half the price, but it is good enough for me for general "atmospheric" recording. I also use the Rode SM-5 when I use the NTG-2 mic, to keep it from intruding into the corner of the picture. It works fine with the V1. I can't leave it on when the camera is in its carry bag though, it doesn't fit. I posted some sound samples here (at least one of the captions gives the wrong distance from the source, but that is minor): http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showpost....3&postcount=28 __________________ Irish Railway Videos on Youtube

April 12th, 2008, 02:53 PM	#7
Mike Beckett Trustee Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Antrim, Northern Ireland Posts: 1,569	Hi Max, Yes - I checked out the Beyer site and saw the options. The "CAM" version came with a shoe mount, which didn't suit the V1. Like yourself, I want the shoe mount to be kept free. I would've gone for the "PV" version if I could have got it... as it is, I think I can manage to carry a couple of AA batteries with me, the single battery I've had in the mic has lasted for months! __________________ Irish Railway Videos on Youtube

April 7th, 2008, 09:08 AM	#2
Craig Irving Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 539	You can always get a Rode SM5 shockmount. That's what I use and it works great. That way you'll be able to use any stereo shotgun you wish. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...icrophone.html

April 12th, 2008, 11:00 AM	#6
Max Volki Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 88	Mike, do you know that Beyerdynamics have 3 Mikros MCE72? 1. MCE 72 2. MCE-72 CAM 3. MCE-72 PV-CAM http://www.beyerdynamic.de/en/broadc...crophones.html MCE 72 CAM is with batterie or phantom, but >20 cm long MCE 72 PV CAM is only phantom, but it is 13,5 cm short Together with Rode SM5 it should be ok Thank you all for your advise

April 12th, 2008, 07:12 PM	#8
D.J. Ammons Major Player Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 506	If you want to broaden your choices for $30 you can buy a Cool Lux dual shoe bracket that turns your one shoe into two. I use it on one of my V1U's so I can use both a Rode NTG-2 and Video light.

April 13th, 2008, 01:16 AM	#9
Max Volki Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 88	Mike, If you, or someone else, ever have problems, getting some audio equipment, be it consumer, prosumer or professional, try THOMANN. One or the biggest German based firms to sell audio equipment. They usually just have everything in stock, if it is audio related. There website is multilingual and they send orders worldwide. Like B&H in US They have also good prices. If you live in a Non-EU Country as I do, you get the German VAT of 19% off. http://www.thomann.de/gb/index.html http://www.thomann.de/gb/search_dir.html?sw=MCE72 volki