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Hugh Mobley · March 5th, 2008, 12:01 PM

If I shoot 24p what actually is the V1 producing to the tape in comparison to shooting 1080i.

Craig Irving · March 5th, 2008, 12:20 PM

24p is stored on the tape w/ pulldown, resulting in 60i.

You are still shooting progressive, and many NLEs have no problem extracting the original 24p signal because the V1U uses a common pulldown phase.

Search and you'll find a lot more on the topic. Or pick up Steve Mullen's book on this camera, it's very good.

Hugh Mobley · March 5th, 2008, 11:54 PM

I have his book, he actually doesn't get into the V1 as much as I would have liked. my question is because I usually shoot 4pa and never really get a consistent result, so now I am shooting 60i and capturing with cineform set to high, deinterlacing, then putting the clips into Vegas 8 on a 24p timeline, then rendering into mpeg4. my results are far better this way. I guess I am wondering what the camera actually does. its 60i with pulldown, going to 24p is removing the pulldown, ( did not remove with cineform) but, the camera actually always shoots 60i. am i correct that this camera does not shoot true 24p but its 24p when the pulldown is removed. is it fields on the camera chip, then frames on tape, when does it go from fields to frames, since 24p is frames.Am I on the right wave length here. Or maybe someone can suggest where I can get info on the technical aspect of what really is happening in this camera when i shoot 60i vs 24p

March 5th, 2008, 12:01 PM	#1
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March 5th, 2008, 11:54 PM	#3
Hugh Mobley Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Placentia, Calif Posts: 549	I have his book, he actually doesn't get into the V1 as much as I would have liked. my question is because I usually shoot 4pa and never really get a consistent result, so now I am shooting 60i and capturing with cineform set to high, deinterlacing, then putting the clips into Vegas 8 on a 24p timeline, then rendering into mpeg4. my results are far better this way. I guess I am wondering what the camera actually does. its 60i with pulldown, going to 24p is removing the pulldown, ( did not remove with cineform) but, the camera actually always shoots 60i. am i correct that this camera does not shoot true 24p but its 24p when the pulldown is removed. is it fields on the camera chip, then frames on tape, when does it go from fields to frames, since 24p is frames.Am I on the right wave length here. Or maybe someone can suggest where I can get info on the technical aspect of what really is happening in this camera when i shoot 60i vs 24p __________________ Hugh Mobley www.petplanetvideos.com http://exposureroom.com/members/hmobley.aspx/

March 5th, 2008, 12:20 PM	#2
Craig Irving Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 539	24p is stored on the tape w/ pulldown, resulting in 60i. You are still shooting progressive, and many NLEs have no problem extracting the original 24p signal because the V1U uses a common pulldown phase. Search and you'll find a lot more on the topic. Or pick up Steve Mullen's book on this camera, it's very good.