Let's talk about the HDR-HC5 and HDR-HC7!

Andrew Lee · February 6th, 2007, 03:45 AM

Does the HC7 have black stretch or free run time code features? I'd like to use it as a B cam for my Z1u, but also take it on vacations.

Thanks.

John Lutz · February 6th, 2007, 11:21 AM

Please explain X.V. Color, can it be viewed on any HD TV, and will it mix with Sony FX1 in editing in Vegas 7?
Thanks
John

Paulo Teixeira · February 6th, 2007, 05:43 PM

It’s only viewable on future TVs from Sony, Samsung and others that supports Deep Color. The TVs basically have to be HDMI 1.3 complaint. You would also need a category 2 HDMI plug to receive the full colors. Because the PS3 is HDMI 1.3 complaint, you can put your HC7 footage on a Blu-Ray disc and still get all that extra colors if you have the proper TV.

The only other High Definition units besides the PS3 that supports Deep Color is the Toshiba HD-XA1 HD-DVD player that is already out and the Samsung BD-P1200 Blu-Ray player that is almost out.

Paulo Teixeira · February 6th, 2007, 05:49 PM

Here is a thread I provided a while back that talks about the first Sony TVs to use x.v.Color.
http://dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=83526

John Lutz · February 6th, 2007, 06:21 PM

Thanks Paul
I think I have a better understanding of xv color.
Will HC7 also play HDV on a regular HD TV (Sony SXRD), but not show the
Deep Color?
Also will the HC7 play a HDV tape recorded on the FX1?
Or are you saying they are two competely different formats?
Thanks
John

Paulo Teixeira · February 6th, 2007, 07:12 PM

Everything is fully compatible. It’s like hooking up an HD camcorder to a standard TV. The TV may not be HD but it can still play the footage in standard definition. Basically it will still play on an HD TV but you won’t see the extra colors.

The HC7 won’t have any problems at all playing footage from an FX1.

Daniel Rudd · May 17th, 2007, 08:36 PM

I've not really seen this before.

And it seems to be very different from the "ordinary macro" found on most camcorders since their inception.

Looking at some high end tele-macro lenses available for photography, it seems like there is at least a possibility that this feature could be used for a shallow depth of field.

But I'm not finding any detailed information on this anywhere (including the manual).

Anybody tried this yet?
It could bring a close to my year long experimentation with different gg and vibration mechanism in my hacked "letus flip"

Tom Hardwick · May 18th, 2007, 01:44 AM

Tele-macro only works over a very limited range so it's great for some things and not a lot of use for others. Good if getting close will frighten your subject and/or get you injected with venom.

tom.

George Ellis · May 21st, 2007, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Rudd

I've not really seen this before.
Anybody tried this yet?
It could bring a close to my year long experimentation with different gg and vibration mechanism in my hacked "letus flip"

OT - Daniel, you have a HC5/7? So, when are we going to see a music video using, say, Stock20 music? :D

Daniel Rudd · May 21st, 2007, 08:19 PM

no tom, I don't have one.
But I'm thinking about one for a project I'm working on.

Stock20 has forced me to retire from all pro video work.
I've made one exception this year for my favorite non-profit.

here's a link to a low res version:

http://www.stock20.com/media/mawbyfinal.wmv

And yes, I used all Stock20.com music. :)

I actually surfed the site, used the "favorites" feature to plan my project, bought the stuff (using in store credit of course), and downloaded.

I wanted to experience it like a customer. It wasn't too bad. But our new interface and search developments are going to make it a lot better...

thanks for asking :)

February 6th, 2007, 11:21 AM	#47
John Lutz New Boot Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: FOUNTAIN HILLS, AZ Posts: 23	HC7 X.V. Color ? Please explain X.V. Color, can it be viewed on any HD TV, and will it mix with Sony FX1 in editing in Vegas 7? Thanks John

February 6th, 2007, 05:43 PM	#48
Paulo Teixeira Trustee Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,773	It’s only viewable on future TVs from Sony, Samsung and others that supports Deep Color. The TVs basically have to be HDMI 1.3 complaint. You would also need a category 2 HDMI plug to receive the full colors. Because the PS3 is HDMI 1.3 complaint, you can put your HC7 footage on a Blu-Ray disc and still get all that extra colors if you have the proper TV. The only other High Definition units besides the PS3 that supports Deep Color is the Toshiba HD-XA1 HD-DVD player that is already out and the Samsung BD-P1200 Blu-Ray player that is almost out. __________________ https://www.youtube.com/user/PhotoVi...esEtc/featured https://www.pond5.com/artist/paulot Last edited by Paulo Teixeira; February 6th, 2007 at 07:16 PM.

February 6th, 2007, 05:49 PM	#49
Paulo Teixeira Trustee Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,773	Here is a thread I provided a while back that talks about the first Sony TVs to use x.v.Color. http://dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=83526 __________________ https://www.youtube.com/user/PhotoVi...esEtc/featured https://www.pond5.com/artist/paulot

February 6th, 2007, 06:21 PM	#50
John Lutz New Boot Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: FOUNTAIN HILLS, AZ Posts: 23	Hc7 Hdv Thanks Paul I think I have a better understanding of xv color. Will HC7 also play HDV on a regular HD TV (Sony SXRD), but not show the Deep Color? Also will the HC7 play a HDV tape recorded on the FX1? Or are you saying they are two competely different formats? Thanks John

February 6th, 2007, 07:12 PM	#51
Paulo Teixeira Trustee Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,773	Everything is fully compatible. It’s like hooking up an HD camcorder to a standard TV. The TV may not be HD but it can still play the footage in standard definition. Basically it will still play on an HD TV but you won’t see the extra colors. The HC7 won’t have any problems at all playing footage from an FX1. __________________ https://www.youtube.com/user/PhotoVi...esEtc/featured https://www.pond5.com/artist/paulot

February 6th, 2007, 03:45 AM	#46
Andrew Lee Tourist Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Milpitas, CA Posts: 4	Does the HC7 have black stretch or free run time code features? I'd like to use it as a B cam for my Z1u, but also take it on vacations. Thanks.

May 17th, 2007, 08:36 PM	#52
Daniel Rudd Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: North Muskegon, MI Posts: 213	but what about the "tele macro" feature? I've not really seen this before. And it seems to be very different from the "ordinary macro" found on most camcorders since their inception. Looking at some high end tele-macro lenses available for photography, it seems like there is at least a possibility that this feature could be used for a shallow depth of field. But I'm not finding any detailed information on this anywhere (including the manual). Anybody tried this yet? It could bring a close to my year long experimentation with different gg and vibration mechanism in my hacked "letus flip" __________________ Daniel Rudd Digital Storyteller (Sony HDV, Aspect HD) Soundtrack Creation & Royalty Free Music Production www.stock20.com

May 18th, 2007, 01:44 AM	#53
Tom Hardwick Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Billericay, England UK Posts: 4,711	Tele-macro only works over a very limited range so it's great for some things and not a lot of use for others. Good if getting close will frighten your subject and/or get you injected with venom. tom.

May 21st, 2007, 08:19 PM	#55
Daniel Rudd Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: North Muskegon, MI Posts: 213	no tom, I don't have one. But I'm thinking about one for a project I'm working on. Stock20 has forced me to retire from all pro video work. I've made one exception this year for my favorite non-profit. here's a link to a low res version: http://www.stock20.com/media/mawbyfinal.wmv And yes, I used all Stock20.com music. :) I actually surfed the site, used the "favorites" feature to plan my project, bought the stuff (using in store credit of course), and downloaded. I wanted to experience it like a customer. It wasn't too bad. But our new interface and search developments are going to make it a lot better... thanks for asking :) __________________ Daniel Rudd Digital Storyteller (Sony HDV, Aspect HD) Soundtrack Creation & Royalty Free Music Production www.stock20.com