Matte box question at DVinfo.net

Cliff Etzel · December 29th, 2006, 03:24 PM

How important is it to have a matte box for someone focusing on indie magazine style video journalism???

I currently have a TRV950 and will receive my HC1 next week. I already have things like a Rode VideoMic, boom pole, Century Optics W/A lens, single Lowel Tota-lite, etc...

Is a matte box something small enough a self contained vj would use or am I looking at an expense that isn't necessary??? The cost of matte boxes has me scratching my head at their cost in relation to what they actually do - some of them are as much as my video cameras - if not more!!!

Any insights would be greatly appreciated...

David Delaney · December 29th, 2006, 05:03 PM

I think a matte box is for prevent lens flare. If you are outside you need it and if you are using indoor light you need it. I am not sure if the rubber hood that comes with the HC1 might do the trick.

Cliff Etzel · December 29th, 2006, 05:08 PM

I'm trying to determine if the stock lens hood that comes with the HC1 will do - The only challenge is the Century optics w/a lens adapter I have I think is 43mm filter size so in reality, it won't work with the stock hood for the HC1...

Things were more simple shooting with my TRV950, but after viewing some footage shot with the Canon HV10 and SONY HC1, it made my TRV950 seem lacking in the quality department...

David Delaney · December 30th, 2006, 10:48 AM

I also read something from here:

http://www.dvuser.co.uk/back-issues.php

One of the backissues talked about Matte Boxes and how it helps to increase contract for crushing the blacks. If anything, these are nice reads anyways.

Jerome Cloninger · December 30th, 2006, 11:43 AM

I replaced the stock hood on my HC1's with these and a 49mm adapter. I use 49mm filters if needed and can still use the hood. They are a little deeper than the stock hoods and look better too. I don't use the hood when using a WA lens though so an appropriate matte box may work for your situation.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ughType=search

Peter Ferling · December 30th, 2006, 01:31 PM

Matte boxes are useful for multiple filters as well as lens flare. Yes, you can get better contrast if shooting from a dark spot.

In a quick fix, you could tape a piece of cardboard to shield indirect, harsh light.
I've done this before while shooting in the OR. Physicians use very intense overhead lighting to both warm the patient and to see finite details. I was getting some flare even with the small hood and quickly cut a piece of card board and a little surgical tape and was back in business.

You can buy french flags attached to adustable gooseneck arms if you're just worried about flare.

December 29th, 2006, 03:24 PM	#1
Cliff Etzel Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Eugene, Oregon Posts: 325	Matte box question How important is it to have a matte box for someone focusing on indie magazine style video journalism??? I currently have a TRV950 and will receive my HC1 next week. I already have things like a Rode VideoMic, boom pole, Century Optics W/A lens, single Lowel Tota-lite, etc... Is a matte box something small enough a self contained vj would use or am I looking at an expense that isn't necessary??? The cost of matte boxes has me scratching my head at their cost in relation to what they actually do - some of them are as much as my video cameras - if not more!!! Any insights would be greatly appreciated... __________________ Cliff Etzel - Photographer Website \| Blog

December 29th, 2006, 05:08 PM	#3
Cliff Etzel Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Eugene, Oregon Posts: 325	I'm trying to determine if the stock lens hood that comes with the HC1 will do - The only challenge is the Century optics w/a lens adapter I have I think is 43mm filter size so in reality, it won't work with the stock hood for the HC1... Things were more simple shooting with my TRV950, but after viewing some footage shot with the Canon HV10 and SONY HC1, it made my TRV950 seem lacking in the quality department... __________________ Cliff Etzel - Photographer Website \| Blog

December 30th, 2006, 11:43 AM	#5
Jerome Cloninger Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: East TN Posts: 415	I replaced the stock hood on my HC1's with these and a 49mm adapter. I use 49mm filters if needed and can still use the hood. They are a little deeper than the stock hoods and look better too. I don't use the hood when using a WA lens though so an appropriate matte box may work for your situation. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ughType=search __________________ Jerome www.jeromecloninger.com

December 29th, 2006, 05:03 PM	#2
David Delaney Trustee Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Niagara Ontario Canada Posts: 1,121	I think a matte box is for prevent lens flare. If you are outside you need it and if you are using indoor light you need it. I am not sure if the rubber hood that comes with the HC1 might do the trick.

December 30th, 2006, 10:48 AM	#4
David Delaney Trustee Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Niagara Ontario Canada Posts: 1,121	I also read something from here: http://www.dvuser.co.uk/back-issues.php One of the backissues talked about Matte Boxes and how it helps to increase contract for crushing the blacks. If anything, these are nice reads anyways.

December 30th, 2006, 01:31 PM	#6
Peter Ferling Trustee Join Date: May 2005 Location: Wyomissing, PA Posts: 1,141 Images: 57	Matte boxes are useful for multiple filters as well as lens flare. Yes, you can get better contrast if shooting from a dark spot. In a quick fix, you could tape a piece of cardboard to shield indirect, harsh light. I've done this before while shooting in the OR. Physicians use very intense overhead lighting to both warm the patient and to see finite details. I was getting some flare even with the small hood and quickly cut a piece of card board and a little surgical tape and was back in business. You can buy french flags attached to adustable gooseneck arms if you're just worried about flare.