A new 3-chip JVC HD camcorder? at DVinfo.net

Jacob Mason · September 2nd, 2006, 11:48 AM

According to Videoactiv(Google Translated Version) there's a new JVC HD/HD camcorder coming out. Evidently, the codec remains a secret, claiming neither HDV or the AVCHD. Yeah, another format sounds just like what we need, thanks JVC.

Jack Zhang · September 2nd, 2006, 01:05 PM

It's AVCHD, if it's on a hard drive it has to be AVCHD.

Remember:

Tapes=HDV
Hard Drives and DVDs=AVCHD

and they claim to be 1080p, and if it's 3CCD and the price is low, that means they're more prone to dead pixels and other defects.

Lawrence Bansbach · September 2nd, 2006, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Zhang

It's AVCHD, if it's on a hard drive it has to be AVCHD.

Remember:

Tapes=HDV
Hard Drives and DVDs=AVCHD

It's not as simple as that. The HD100 also has a hard-drive option.

Frank Granovski · September 2nd, 2006, 03:41 PM

I love these types of secret rumours.

Paulo Teixeira · September 2nd, 2006, 04:58 PM

Since JVC have never joined the AVCHD group, don’t expect JVC to have AVCHD as the compression in this camcorder but since HDV does equal tape even though you can buy hard drive attachments for the HD100. The only conclusion is JVC must have indeed developed a new codec as the article indicated.

Jacob Mason · September 3rd, 2006, 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Zhang

It's AVCHD, if it's on a hard drive it has to be AVCHD.

From the article: "Obviously JVC uses neither HDV nor AVCHD - the compression format of the new system is still secret."

So, unless they're lying, it doesn't look like AVCHD.

Tim Goldman · September 3rd, 2006, 12:32 PM

i saw something like htois, it has a big battery that sticks n back. I think it's the current version. It used a program called mono or somehting to retreave clips and they were in .mod, then you could use this other software called...snippy? clampy? i forget to convert to mpeg, soemhting liek thart. I didn't liek it cause you were stuck in .mod (what ever that is)

Mark Kubat · September 3rd, 2006, 08:49 PM

seems like your "hunch" might be the new flavour of the Everio???

but gosh, that might not be 3CCD... or is it? Maybe it will be?

Lee Wilson · September 3rd, 2006, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Goldman

i saw something like htois, it has a big battery that sticks n back. I think it's the current version. It used a program called mono or somehting to retreave clips and they were in .mod, then you could use this other software called...snippy? clampy?

'Capty' MPEG Edit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Goldman

i forget to convert to mpeg, soemhting liek thart. I didn't liek it cause you were stuck in .mod (what ever that is)

Simply change the file extension from .mod to .mpg.

And then play them in anything that plays mpeg files like QT7 - VLC - MPEGStreamclip etc etc.

'.mod' files are simply 'muxed' mpeg files.

Jacob Mason · September 4th, 2006, 10:26 AM

Other sources are confirming the report.
i4u story follows up heise (translated).
There's some conflict over whether or not it'll be interlaced or progressive.
If this is interlaced, this would be their first all interlaced HD camcorder wouldn't it?
Everything else they've released, even their very first HD camcorder was progressive.
hmmmmm

Wayne Morellini · November 10th, 2006, 12:00 PM

Local store told me it could be by end of the year. He also mentioned Hard drive Panasonics next year, but he was a bit confusing.

Wayne Morellini · November 10th, 2006, 12:18 PM

It's Area 51, might as well have some controversy.

Wavelet based codec, 2D or 3D, cineform.

Any bidders to top that ;).

These sorts of codec consume less processing power than H264, and are prone to high quality recording. The complexity might even rival a Mpeg4 solution, then again I am talking in Area 51, and probably don't know what I am talking about. So they are an ideal alternative codec for this camera.

There is Vp7/VP8 that slightly edges out H264 for performance with less processing power, or Mpeg4, but I think wavelets are more the go.

September 2nd, 2006, 11:48 AM	#1
Jacob Mason Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 205	A new 3-chip JVC HD camcorder? According to Videoactiv(Google Translated Version) there's a new JVC HD/HD camcorder coming out. Evidently, the codec remains a secret, claiming neither HDV or the AVCHD. Yeah, another format sounds just like what we need, thanks JVC.

September 3rd, 2006, 12:32 PM	#7
Tim Goldman Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Marietta, GA Posts: 135	i saw something like htois, it has a big battery that sticks n back. I think it's the current version. It used a program called mono or somehting to retreave clips and they were in .mod, then you could use this other software called...snippy? clampy? i forget to convert to mpeg, soemhting liek thart. I didn't liek it cause you were stuck in .mod (what ever that is) __________________ Wish I had something witty to say

September 3rd, 2006, 08:49 PM	#8
Mark Kubat Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 375	check out the "digital industry news" thread seems like your "hunch" might be the new flavour of the Everio??? but gosh, that might not be 3CCD... or is it? Maybe it will be?

September 2nd, 2006, 01:05 PM	#2
Jack Zhang Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Burnaby, BC, Canada Posts: 3,053	It's AVCHD, if it's on a hard drive it has to be AVCHD. Remember: Tapes=HDV Hard Drives and DVDs=AVCHD and they claim to be 1080p, and if it's 3CCD and the price is low, that means they're more prone to dead pixels and other defects.

September 2nd, 2006, 03:41 PM	#4
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	I love these types of secret rumours.

September 2nd, 2006, 04:58 PM	#5
Paulo Teixeira Trustee Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,773	Since JVC have never joined the AVCHD group, don’t expect JVC to have AVCHD as the compression in this camcorder but since HDV does equal tape even though you can buy hard drive attachments for the HD100. The only conclusion is JVC must have indeed developed a new codec as the article indicated.

September 4th, 2006, 10:26 AM	#10
Jacob Mason Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 205	Other sources are confirming the report. i4u story follows up heise (translated). There's some conflict over whether or not it'll be interlaced or progressive. If this is interlaced, this would be their first all interlaced HD camcorder wouldn't it? Everything else they've released, even their very first HD camcorder was progressive. hmmmmm

November 10th, 2006, 12:00 PM	#11
Wayne Morellini Inner Circle Join Date: May 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 2,762	Local store told me it could be by end of the year. He also mentioned Hard drive Panasonics next year, but he was a bit confusing.

November 10th, 2006, 12:18 PM	#12
Wayne Morellini Inner Circle Join Date: May 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 2,762	It's Area 51, might as well have some controversy. Wavelet based codec, 2D or 3D, cineform. Any bidders to top that ;). These sorts of codec consume less processing power than H264, and are prone to high quality recording. The complexity might even rival a Mpeg4 solution, then again I am talking in Area 51, and probably don't know what I am talking about. So they are an ideal alternative codec for this camera. There is Vp7/VP8 that slightly edges out H264 for performance with less processing power, or Mpeg4, but I think wavelets are more the go.