No analog-digital passthrough on HC-1? at DVinfo.net

Chris Harris · July 30th, 2006, 11:44 PM

Why, Sony, why? It's the perfect camcorder except for that one little thing. Am I missing something? I'm pretty sure the manual said something about it not being possible, but maybe I read something wrong. I tried hooking everything up but it looks like the AV port is an output only. Can somebody confirm that this has been left out?

Peter Ferling · July 31st, 2006, 07:10 AM

You are correct. It's an output only.

That $1400 pricetag for the HC1 is the minimum entrance fee for HDV resolution period. If you want anything else useful beyond that, then the price more than doubles to an FX1. Thus we come to realize the true consumerish nature of these little cams. Therefore, it's not something that has been "left out", but rather something that was never designed to be "in" the first place.

What I am saying is that just because a comparable miniDV product may have all these bells and whistles, doesn't give license for those features to be included on the HC1. What makes the HC1 better than those feature packed miniDV cams is the resolution. That's it, nothing else. It's a first generation HDV camera of it's kind.

Graham Hickling · July 31st, 2006, 09:23 AM

Ok so it's an extra $200, but easily solved:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ist&sku=349146

Peter Ferling · July 31st, 2006, 02:15 PM

Cheaper still:

http://www.videoguys.com/pyroAVlink.html

Stu Holmes · July 31st, 2006, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Ferling

You are correct. It's an output only.

That $1400 pricetag for the HC1 is the minimum entrance fee for HDV resolution period.

Well, there's the HC3 which is same 1080i HDV res, and it's less than $1200 at B&H:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...=423689&is=REG

Peter Ferling · July 31st, 2006, 05:47 PM

I know. However, I was referring to the HC1 itself.

Tommy Haupfear · August 1st, 2006, 06:12 AM

Do you just want to use the pass-thru to get analog video to your PC or is the camcorder/firewire an integral part of what you're trying to do?

Chris Harris · August 2nd, 2006, 01:00 AM

I just wanted the passthrough. Looks like I'll have to pick up the Pyro then.

Alex Thin · August 2nd, 2006, 07:33 AM

What kind of "video" you want to convert to analogog to digital?, because there are many cards in the market, many of them ver cheap, taht can make this kind of work.

Tommy Haupfear · August 2nd, 2006, 07:52 AM

Alex, I was thinking of the same thing. Most of the cheaper units use USB or a proprietary card like my Studio Plus 700-PCI version 10.5.

Is firewire a must for the transfer?

Douglas Spotted Eagle · August 2nd, 2006, 08:27 AM

Firewire is a must for I/O and this is true of essentially anyone. I'd be surprised if the HC1 is different than the HC3 and A1 in that regard, and the A1 does allow analog monitoring of a Firewire input.

Tommy Haupfear · August 2nd, 2006, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Firewire is a must for I/O and this is true of essentially anyone.

Douglas, we were talking about a 3rd party device without using a camcorder at all to transfer analog video to your PC. Definitely firewire is the preferred method of transfer with digital video.

Douglas Spotted Eagle · August 2nd, 2006, 09:53 AM

I understand. But in reading the thread, I didn't understand you were looking for analog input for pass-thru-only, I thought the discussion was also including preview/capture. Apologies.

Tommy Haupfear · August 2nd, 2006, 04:06 PM

Canon now has a HDV cam with analog-digital passthru.

http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/co...4059&pageno=11

Jeff DeMaagd · August 2nd, 2006, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy Haupfear

Canon now has a HDV cam with analog-digital passthru.

http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/co...4059&pageno=11

That's a month away, but it looks very interesting. It also has optical image stabilization. And a full one year warranty.

July 30th, 2006, 11:44 PM	#1
Chris Harris Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 487	No analog-digital passthrough on HC-1? Why, Sony, why? It's the perfect camcorder except for that one little thing. Am I missing something? I'm pretty sure the manual said something about it not being possible, but maybe I read something wrong. I tried hooking everything up but it looks like the AV port is an output only. Can somebody confirm that this has been left out?

July 31st, 2006, 07:10 AM	#2
Peter Ferling Trustee Join Date: May 2005 Location: Wyomissing, PA Posts: 1,141 Images: 57	You are correct. It's an output only. That $1400 pricetag for the HC1 is the minimum entrance fee for HDV resolution period. If you want anything else useful beyond that, then the price more than doubles to an FX1. Thus we come to realize the true consumerish nature of these little cams. Therefore, it's not something that has been "left out", but rather something that was never designed to be "in" the first place. What I am saying is that just because a comparable miniDV product may have all these bells and whistles, doesn't give license for those features to be included on the HC1. What makes the HC1 better than those feature packed miniDV cams is the resolution. That's it, nothing else. It's a first generation HDV camera of it's kind. __________________ Pete Ferling http://ferling.net It's never a mistake if you learn something new from it. -------------------------------------------

July 31st, 2006, 02:15 PM	#4
Peter Ferling Trustee Join Date: May 2005 Location: Wyomissing, PA Posts: 1,141 Images: 57	Cheaper still: http://www.videoguys.com/pyroAVlink.html __________________ Pete Ferling http://ferling.net It's never a mistake if you learn something new from it. -------------------------------------------

July 31st, 2006, 05:47 PM	#6
Peter Ferling Trustee Join Date: May 2005 Location: Wyomissing, PA Posts: 1,141 Images: 57	I know. However, I was referring to the HC1 itself. __________________ Pete Ferling http://ferling.net It's never a mistake if you learn something new from it. -------------------------------------------

August 2nd, 2006, 07:33 AM	#9
Alex Thin Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 26	re What kind of "video" you want to convert to analogog to digital?, because there are many cards in the market, many of them ver cheap, taht can make this kind of work.

July 31st, 2006, 09:23 AM	#3
Graham Hickling Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 1,669	Ok so it's an extra $200, but easily solved: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ist&sku=349146

August 1st, 2006, 06:12 AM	#7
Tommy Haupfear Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 1,415	Do you just want to use the pass-thru to get analog video to your PC or is the camcorder/firewire an integral part of what you're trying to do?

August 2nd, 2006, 01:00 AM	#8
Chris Harris Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 487	I just wanted the passthrough. Looks like I'll have to pick up the Pyro then.

August 2nd, 2006, 07:52 AM	#10
Tommy Haupfear Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 1,415	Alex, I was thinking of the same thing. Most of the cheaper units use USB or a proprietary card like my Studio Plus 700-PCI version 10.5. Is firewire a must for the transfer?

August 2nd, 2006, 08:27 AM	#11
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	Firewire is a must for I/O and this is true of essentially anyone. I'd be surprised if the HC1 is different than the HC3 and A1 in that regard, and the A1 does allow analog monitoring of a Firewire input. __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

August 2nd, 2006, 09:53 AM	#13
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	I understand. But in reading the thread, I didn't understand you were looking for analog input for pass-thru-only, I thought the discussion was also including preview/capture. Apologies. __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

August 2nd, 2006, 04:06 PM	#14
Tommy Haupfear Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 1,415	Canon now has a HDV cam with analog-digital passthru. http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/co...4059&pageno=11