Various questions Sony HC1

David Delaney · December 12th, 2006, 05:10 PM

I am thinking of buying a used HC1, but I would like to know the price range they are going for. Ebay is not much help because most of the HC1 I saw were days away from being sold. Has anyone done some research on the HC1 used? What is a good price for it?

Jack D. Hubbard · December 12th, 2006, 06:46 PM

I got one for $1174 on eBay after drawing a blank everywhere else. No dealers I know of have them. Broadway Camera advertises it on the web, and when you go to the site, they say the HC-1 is discontinued and want to sell you and H3. I have seen them sell for up to $1300 on eBay.

I didn't get a manual or a lens shade, but the camera is pristine and did come with small and medium battery. Downloaded the manual and got it bound at Kinko's for $5. Bought the camera for my son in law as a starter, and I had a lot of the extras on hand. Got an A1U lens shade from Sony for $78.

Jack D. Hubbard · December 12th, 2006, 06:56 PM

Dave

Dave Campbell has an HC-1 for sale in the Private Classifieds. Posted yesterday at $1,300.

Dennis Hingsberg · December 18th, 2006, 09:39 AM

Has anyone determined the Sony HC1 or HC3's effective ASA?

I need this information and can't find it anywhere - likely no one has bothered to figure it out yet.

If you need help knowing how to measure here's a link,

http://www.spectracine.com/Spectra_Pro_4_artical_2.html

Tom Johnson · December 18th, 2006, 09:44 AM

where did you guys send your hc1 back too to have red problems fixed. is there a site or a phone # to call.. Also got a problem on playback only when using compnent or composite outputs that every so often a scrolling horizontal line will go from the top of the screen to the bottom. it has no color is very thin and just effects the picture. but when i transfer to hard drive it is fine...any one have this problem..very strange...

Arve Hansen · December 19th, 2006, 05:46 AM

I have a Sony HC1E HDV (Pal)
Captured with HDVsplit0,75 to harddrive and got m2t file.
Open Canopus Edius 4.
When i use HDV 1080 50i nothing worked to my m2t file.
If i use output format HDV 1080 25p it worked fine. HC1 is interlaced 50i, or?
Who do I know what to use?

Jung Kyu · December 19th, 2006, 08:23 AM

hc1 clip

http://www.camuser.co.kr/cam_vm/VID_...720p_3000k.wmv

Evan Dowling · December 21st, 2006, 10:37 AM

You have to check the capture settings in your capture program to see how the footage is being captured. iMovie, for example captures my HD footage in 30p instead of 60i.

David Delaney · December 21st, 2006, 11:27 PM

Can you control the apperature/exposure on the Hc1? I remember reading in camcorderinfo that you could not, or is that a mistake?

Frank Howard · December 21st, 2006, 11:33 PM

You can control them, but it's not in the standard f stops.
There is a chart here that gives a table matching the aperture and amount of gain for each exposure setting.

http://hdvforever.com/hdv/exposure/

Note: There are only half as many HC1 settings as with the A1U, so if the chart says 16 that is the equivalent of 8 on the HC1 exposure scale.

James Harring · January 1st, 2007, 08:24 AM

I won't vouch for this link either way, though my subjective experience seems to concur with his assessment... about 100-125 ISO is effective speed of my a1u. (Hc1's big brother)
But shoot, HDV for under $2k... still a deal IMO.

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=82097

Are Knudsen · January 7th, 2007, 05:18 PM

A review at camcorderinfo.net claims that:

http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content...HC1-Review.htm

"Analog to Digital Pass-Through The HDR-HC1 can convert an analog signal to a digital one, though it can only do this in DV. It can't convert an analog signal to an HDV one".

To me it seems the HC has no analog capture capability; which is why I am trying to convert my old Video8 films using a PC and canopus ADVC 110.

Did I miss out somethingon the HC1's analog capture abilities??

Yours,

. Are

Chris Harris · January 7th, 2007, 07:31 PM

It's true, there is no such feature on this camcorder unfortunately.
I ran into this problem as well.
http://dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=72638

David Delaney · January 10th, 2007, 06:52 PM

I am noticing a hollow sound when moving the HC1 around in manual audio mode. Has anyone else noticed this? It is almost like when you move a hollow tube around quickly is the closest approximation I can come to what the noise is like.

David Delaney · January 17th, 2007, 09:20 PM

When I go through my menu system for the HC1, I hit DISP Guide. It asks me for a position for the guide. I click on the screen and it always says : NO GUIDE. What is going on with it?

December 12th, 2006, 05:10 PM	#136
David Delaney Trustee Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Niagara Ontario Canada Posts: 1,121	Hc1 prices I am thinking of buying a used HC1, but I would like to know the price range they are going for. Ebay is not much help because most of the HC1 I saw were days away from being sold. Has anyone done some research on the HC1 used? What is a good price for it?

December 12th, 2006, 06:46 PM	#137
Jack D. Hubbard Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Menlo Park, CA Posts: 342	Hc1 I got one for $1174 on eBay after drawing a blank everywhere else. No dealers I know of have them. Broadway Camera advertises it on the web, and when you go to the site, they say the HC-1 is discontinued and want to sell you and H3. I have seen them sell for up to $1300 on eBay. I didn't get a manual or a lens shade, but the camera is pristine and did come with small and medium battery. Downloaded the manual and got it bound at Kinko's for $5. Bought the camera for my son in law as a starter, and I had a lot of the extras on hand. Got an A1U lens shade from Sony for $78.

December 12th, 2006, 06:56 PM	#138
Jack D. Hubbard Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Menlo Park, CA Posts: 342	Classifieds Dave Dave Campbell has an HC-1 for sale in the Private Classifieds. Posted yesterday at $1,300.

December 18th, 2006, 09:39 AM	#139
Dennis Hingsberg Trustee Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,055	HC1 or HC3 effective ASA? Has anyone determined the Sony HC1 or HC3's effective ASA? I need this information and can't find it anywhere - likely no one has bothered to figure it out yet. If you need help knowing how to measure here's a link, http://www.spectracine.com/Spectra_Pro_4_artical_2.html __________________ Blog: www.hingsberg.com Ultimate Exposure Guides for FS5/F7S/F5/F55

December 18th, 2006, 09:44 AM	#140
Tom Johnson Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 82	sending back hc1 red problems where did you guys send your hc1 back too to have red problems fixed. is there a site or a phone # to call.. Also got a problem on playback only when using compnent or composite outputs that every so often a scrolling horizontal line will go from the top of the screen to the bottom. it has no color is very thin and just effects the picture. but when i transfer to hard drive it is fine...any one have this problem..very strange...

December 19th, 2006, 05:46 AM	#141
Arve Hansen Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 49	output device, output format? HC1? I have a Sony HC1E HDV (Pal) Captured with HDVsplit0,75 to harddrive and got m2t file. Open Canopus Edius 4. When i use HDV 1080 50i nothing worked to my m2t file. If i use output format HDV 1080 25p it worked fine. HC1 is interlaced 50i, or? Who do I know what to use?

December 19th, 2006, 08:23 AM	#142
Jung Kyu Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 143	hc1 clip hc1 clip http://www.camuser.co.kr/cam_vm/VID_...720p_3000k.wmv

December 21st, 2006, 10:37 AM	#143
Evan Dowling Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fort Myers , Florida Posts: 64	You have to check the capture settings in your capture program to see how the footage is being captured. iMovie, for example captures my HD footage in 30p instead of 60i. __________________ Evan Dowling HDV 1080i Sony HDR-HC1

December 21st, 2006, 11:27 PM	#144
David Delaney Trustee Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Niagara Ontario Canada Posts: 1,121	exposure and apperature control on the HC1? Can you control the apperature/exposure on the Hc1? I remember reading in camcorderinfo that you could not, or is that a mistake?

December 21st, 2006, 11:33 PM	#145
Frank Howard Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 157	You can control them, but it's not in the standard f stops. There is a chart here that gives a table matching the aperture and amount of gain for each exposure setting. http://hdvforever.com/hdv/exposure/ Note: There are only half as many HC1 settings as with the A1U, so if the chart says 16 that is the equivalent of 8 on the HC1 exposure scale.

January 1st, 2007, 08:24 AM	#146
James Harring Major Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 210	Effective ISO I won't vouch for this link either way, though my subjective experience seems to concur with his assessment... about 100-125 ISO is effective speed of my a1u. (Hc1's big brother) But shoot, HDV for under $2k... still a deal IMO. http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=82097

January 7th, 2007, 05:18 PM	#147
Are Knudsen New Boot Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 9	Analog capture with HC1 A review at camcorderinfo.net claims that: http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content...HC1-Review.htm "Analog to Digital Pass-Through The HDR-HC1 can convert an analog signal to a digital one, though it can only do this in DV. It can't convert an analog signal to an HDV one". To me it seems the HC has no analog capture capability; which is why I am trying to convert my old Video8 films using a PC and canopus ADVC 110. Did I miss out somethingon the HC1's analog capture abilities?? Yours, . Are

January 7th, 2007, 07:31 PM	#148
Chris Harris Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 487	It's true, there is no such feature on this camcorder unfortunately. I ran into this problem as well. http://dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=72638

January 10th, 2007, 06:52 PM	#149
David Delaney Trustee Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Niagara Ontario Canada Posts: 1,121	hollow sound when moving the hc1 around I am noticing a hollow sound when moving the HC1 around in manual audio mode. Has anyone else noticed this? It is almost like when you move a hollow tube around quickly is the closest approximation I can come to what the noise is like.

January 17th, 2007, 09:20 PM	#150
David Delaney Trustee Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Niagara Ontario Canada Posts: 1,121	Display Guide for the HC1 - how does it work? When I go through my menu system for the HC1, I hit DISP Guide. It asks me for a position for the guide. I click on the screen and it always says : NO GUIDE. What is going on with it?