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May 17th, 2005, 08:07 AM | #1 |
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titled "What do you want in the next PDX10?" which is located at: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=43428 -- Thanks! CH ------------------------------------------------------------------ Funny that we were just talking about this. Single chip, but I wonder if this is the PDX-10 successor? http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=44713 (EDIT) Yup, I guess this is it: http://news.sel.sony.com/pressrelease/5925 |
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This new HVR-A1U has definately piqued my interest, but obviously we'll have to see what it's really like (image and feature wise) once it hits the streets. I am concerned about it being a 1-chiper...but shouldn't a 1-chip HD camera capture better images than a 3-chip SD camera?
Also, note how the press release mentions eliminating the vertical smear: Quote:
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May 17th, 2005, 09:01 AM | #3 |
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HDV - check
small form factor - check ONE CHIP!!!!!! - uncheck If this is true I'm sad to say Sony has really lost it. And to put it out there at $3500? With 3 chips, sure, I'd buy it without a second thought. Of all the things to dumb down on this great little camera how could they take away the one absolute necessity for prosumer/pro's? |
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I'd have to say this is very much like what I expected from Sony, although the single chip is a bit surprising. No doubt a budget decision. The photos imply even more awkward manual control however. Looks like a lever that you raise/lower to adjust either exposure or volume. Ugh. And what do you think is under those two little doors on the left side. Perhaps the I/O connectors.
Sorry Chris, looks like no real 24p or hard drive. Sorry, no cupholder. After introduction I suspect the street price will fall below $3,500, but who knows? This camera is fascinating, but certainly not something that I would want. |
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My old standby, the TRV20 only has one chip and it looks pretty close to my VX2000 if the light is right. What I really wonder is how big this single CCD is and how good it is going to be in low light. If it's good in low light I can deal with the single CCD.
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Ultimately, the proof will be in the pudding, but my gut keeps telling me that 1-chip HD should look better than 3-chip SD....
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At least, by the appearance, it looks like the PDX10 successor. And again, as Sony did with the PDX10, this new camera has the latest in image processing. Quote:
1 CCD doesn't mean is bad. If Sony came out with this 1 CCD product for their prosumer line, I'm pretty sure they're confident on the new technology. "The combination of a 3-megapixel CMOS sensor with our Enhanced Imaging Processor enables a camcorder to capture and process high-definition video and still images with unprecedented levels of gradation and detailed image reproduction" I don't think at all this is due to budget decision, instead has to do with testing its new tecnology in the market. 1/3" CCD and higher pixel count should translate into better low light capabilities than the PDX10.
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There are so many different threads on this topic in so many of our forums that my head is spinning :-0 Guess I'll stick with this one though...
Someone posted this link for the consumer version: http://www.jp.sonystyle.com/Product/...iew/index.html Notice that the tape appears to load from the bottom. If this is true for the pro version then it's a real step backwards... |
May 17th, 2005, 02:14 PM | #9 |
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Hmm:
- Single chip. - Bottom loading. - Zoom via the focus ring. - Manual buttons on-screen (I guess?). - Exposure and volume share a rocker switch. - And is the eyepiece fixed in a permanent position? What happens if you wanna use a high-capacity battery? I think I'm starting to lose my initial excitement.... |
May 23rd, 2005, 11:06 PM | #10 |
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I thought I post a review of the so-called PDX10 succesor, the HVR-A1U.
"...Sony's Enhanced Imaging Processor (EIP), which governs the behavior of the A1's CMOS, is a big step forward. It speeds 14-bit image processing enough to deliver 1080/60i HDV, while preserving a wide dynamic range, low power consumption, and the CMOS byproduct of no smear." SONY UNVEILS CMOS HDV CAMCORDER
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Thanks Juan, but actually that link is not a review. It's simply a basic overview which Kim Reed wrote for DV Magazine. I imagine she gleaned most of that info from the press release. Kudos to her for actually writing an original piece rather than recycling the Sony release, but it's not a review by any stretch.
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In case you missed it, have a look at this thread: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?p=325435
It appears that the consumer version (the HDR-HC1) doesn't have manual iris or shutter controls. No spec sheet yet on the pro version AFAIK, but looking at their press release again, I don't see any claims that it has manual controls either... Me... I already voted with my wallet and bought a Z1. Am also keeping my PDX-10 for the time being. Have only done minimal tests so far, but I think the Z1's SD DV mode is noticeably better than the PDX-10's (as it should be for 3x the cost :-), especially when capturing as HDV and downconverting in-camera using through firewire port. And of course you can also set it for PAL for a further SD resolution boost.... |
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Very interested in hearing a serious comparison between the PDX10 and Z1. Cheers
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Hey Juan, for some first impressions see: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=46400
On my way to Argentina right now where I will get to know the camera a lot better (actually, spending the night in Dallas/Ft Worth courtesy of American Airlines after missing my connection due to equipment problems :-) When I return to I would like to shoot some comparisons with the PDX-10 and Z1, but that will have to wait awhile. Clearly there is no contest based on what I've already seen however. Shooting in HDV mode and using firewire down conversion gives you some really nice SD footage. And I'm also getting pretty fond of using the PAL format. :-) But of course, the Z1 costs about exactly three times as much as the PDX-10, so one would expect to see a big difference... |
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